Send radioactive waste to bottom of the ocean?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the proposal of disposing of spent nuclear fuel rods by placing them in canisters at the bottom of the ocean. Participants explore the feasibility, safety, and potential environmental impacts of this approach, considering various technical, political, and ecological factors.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that placing spent fuel rods in canisters at the ocean's bottom could utilize water's radiation shielding properties, reducing the need for complex geological storage solutions.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for leaks due to corrosion and environmental factors, with some arguing that seawater's corrosive nature and ocean currents pose significant risks to containment.
  • A few participants mention that while some proposals suggest burying waste in subduction zones, the reality of the waste's heat and chemical activity complicates this option.
  • Others argue that the political opposition to ocean disposal is a significant barrier, despite the technical feasibility suggested by some.
  • Several participants highlight the risk of radioactive materials entering the food chain if containment fails, emphasizing that containment is crucial for preventing environmental contamination.
  • Some participants note that historical examples, such as nuclear submarines lost at sea, demonstrate that containment can be maintained under ocean conditions, although this is contested.
  • There is a discussion about the long-term effects of corrosion on materials at ocean depths, with references to the degradation of the Titanic's remains as a cautionary example.
  • One participant questions the effectiveness of water as a radiation shield, suggesting that lead is often used for a reason and challenging the assumption that water alone is sufficient for safety.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and safety of ocean disposal for nuclear waste, with no consensus reached. While some support the idea based on radiation shielding, others emphasize the risks of leakage and environmental impact, indicating a contentious debate.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainties regarding the long-term integrity of containment under ocean conditions, the effectiveness of water as a radiation shield compared to other materials, and the potential for environmental consequences if containment fails.

  • #31
Steve Brown said:
My previous post is not really off topic, as it addresses the proposed method of disposing of spent fuel rods in such a way that they cannot be recovered. My point is that such disposal is not a good idea, because spent fuel rods contain recoverable fissile material which can be used in a type of reactor that does not create spent fuel assemblies to dispose of.

Thorium reactor also produces waste. Less transuranics than uranium cycle, but about the same amount of fission products. This waste needs to be disposed off just the same.
 
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  • #32
nikkkom said:
Thorium reactor also produces waste. Less transuranics than uranium cycle, but about the same amount of fission products. This waste needs to be disposed off just the same.

Now it is straying off topic to debate the relative merits of light water reactors versus molten salt reactors. For that reason, I'll post my reply to your above post in the LFTR thread.
 
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