Sequence and Series Terminology

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The discussion focuses on the definitions and terminology related to sequences and series, including the mathematical notation used to describe them, the function concept, and the meanings of terms such as "partial sums," "finite series," and "infinite series." The scope includes theoretical aspects and conceptual clarifications.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of a sequence as a function from the natural numbers to the real numbers, seeking clarity on how this relates to the notation used for sequences.
  • Another participant supports the function definition, suggesting that using integers simplifies the process of identifying terms in a sequence, while also proposing alternative approaches using non-integer inputs.
  • There is a mention of partial sums as sums over a defined range, with an example provided for a finite series, contrasting it with an infinite series.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of a net as a more general framework for understanding sequences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition and notation of sequences, with no consensus reached on the best approach or terminology. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of using non-integer inputs for sequences.

Contextual Notes

Some terms and definitions remain ambiguous, and the discussion highlights the potential complexity of defining sequences and series in broader mathematical contexts.

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First, I would like to clear up notation and the definition for sequences. What exactly is a sequence? I read somewhere that it is defined as a function ##f: \mathbb{N} \to \mathbb{R}##. But if this is the case, why do we only define functions based on the range of the function, e.g., ##\left \{ 1, 4, 9, 16... \right \}## (which we regard as "the sequence")? We define sequences with the notation ##\left \{ a_{n} \right \}_{0}^{\infty}## too, but what does this mean in terms of the functions concept? How does this specify a function? In addition, what is the nth term's relation to the function concept, or in other words, what is the analogue of the nth term for sequences in functions? Finally, what exactly to the terms "partial sums, series, finite series, infinite series," mean? It seems as though they are mostly for the same concept.
 
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I like the function definition. The reason we take integers is, honestly, for simplicity. You plug in 1, and you get your first term, you plug in 2, and you get your second term, etc. If you like, I suppose you could do 1/2 integers, and 1/2 would be your first term, 1 would be your second term, etc. You could also do multiples of pi/6. You plug in pi/6 and you get your first term, pi/3 and get your second term, etc. The function would have to be defined accordingly though. IMHO, just stick with the integers, because that is consistent with other definitions. If you were going to define your series to be ##\{ a_n\}_0^\infty\ \text{where}\ a_n := f(n)## and you took n to be something other than integers, what would your pi'th term be? You see how it gets conceptually sketchy there?
Partial sums are when you do a sum over a well defined range, i.e. a finite series. Ex. ##\sum\limits_{k=1}^{10} k## This is a finite series/partial sum. The equivalent infinite series would be ##\sum\limits_{k=1}^{\infty} k = -\frac{1}{12}## ;)
 
BiGyElLoWhAt said:
If you like, I suppose you could do 1/2 integers, and 1/2 would be your first term, 1 would be your second term, etc. You could also do multiples of pi/6. You plug in pi/6 and you get your first term, pi/3 and get your second term, etc. The function would have to be defined accordingly though.

For that concept, see the more general (and more useful) concept of a net.
 
micromass said:
For that concept, see the more general (and more useful) concept of a net.
Very interesting, micro.
 

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