Series Convergence: Alternating and Absolute Convergence Explained

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of series, specifically focusing on alternating series and absolute convergence. Participants examine various series, including those involving factorials and polynomial expressions, and explore the conditions under which these series converge or diverge.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of different convergence tests, such as the ratio test and the nth term test. There are questions about the validity of certain methods and the conditions for convergence, particularly regarding the behavior of terms in the series as n approaches infinity.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on testing for convergence and questioning the correctness of certain statements. There is an active exploration of different interpretations and methods, but no consensus has been reached on the conclusions regarding the series in question.

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Some participants highlight potential misunderstandings in the application of convergence tests and the implications of inequalities presented in the discussion. There are also references to specific conditions required for conditional convergence, which are under scrutiny.

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[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{(-10)^n}{n!}[/tex]
im seeing the terms increasing here DIVERGENT
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{10^n}{n!}[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n->\infty}\sqrt[n]{\frac{10^n}{n!}}>1[/tex]
text is showing absolute convergence
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}(-1)^n\frac{n^2+3}{(2n-5)^2}[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n->\infty}\frac{n^2+3}{(2n-5)^2}\neq0[/tex]
divergent
[tex]\frac{n^2+3}{(2n-5)^2}\leq1[/tex]
[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}1 -> \infty[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n->\infty}{\frac{n^2+3}{(2n-5)^2}>0[/tex]
divergent by limit comparison test









 
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You might want to try ratio test (for absolute convergence) in the case of factorials.
[tex]\lim_{n\to\infty}\left|\frac{10^{n+1}}{(n+1)n!}\cdot\frac{n!}{10^{n}}\right|=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left|\frac{10}{n+1}\right|=0[/tex]
 
can someone please confirm the method used to solve the second
 
If the second one is:

[tex] \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}(-1)^n\frac{n^2+3}{(2n-5)^2} [/tex]

Then you should be fine with the nth term test:

[PLAIN]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_test said:
If[/PLAIN] [tex]\lim_{n \to \infty} a_n \neq 0[/tex] or if the limit does not exist, then [tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty a_n[/tex] diverges.
 
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If you're testing for conditional convergence, then the conditions are [tex]a_{n}[/tex] must be constantly decreasing (monotonic decreasing) and [tex]\lim_{n\to\infty}a_{n}=0[/tex]. In the case of the second problem, the test you took would apply for both conditional and absolute convergence, so it's right.
 
For this one: [tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}(-1)^n\frac{n^2+3}{(2n-5)^2}[/tex], you might want to be a little bit more careful about your argument; you've written a couple things down, and some are not entirely correct (but could be just the awkward formatting that's making things hard to read).

It seems to me you're confusing a few concepts here. You wrote [tex]\frac{n^2+3}{(2n-5)^2} \leq 1[/tex] and then wrote that [tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}1 \to \infty[/tex] --- are you attempting to use the Comparison Test here? Because knowing that [tex]\frac{n^2+3}{(2n-5)^2} \leq 1[/tex] holds and even knowing that [tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}1 \to \infty[/tex] says nothing about the convergence of [tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}(-1)^n\frac{n^2+3}{(2n-5)^2}[/tex]. Besides, the inequality you wrote down is wrong. Set [tex]n = 2[/tex] and you immediately have [tex]\frac{2^2 + 3}{(2\cdot2 - 5)^2} = \frac{4 + 3}{(-1)^2} = 7 \not\leq 1[/tex].

A good approach here would be to use the Alternating Series Test.
 
nameVoid said:
[tex]\lim_{n->\infty}\sqrt[n]{\frac{10^n}{n!}}>1[/tex]

Incorrect. Just for fun, can you do this limit correctly?
 
[tex]\lim_{n->\infty}\frac{10}{(n!)^(1/n)} = 10[/tex]
I assumed
 
[itex]n![/itex] is much bigger than [itex]10^n[/itex] when [itex]n[/itex] is large.

For example:

[tex]10000000000000000000000000000000000000000 = 10^{40}[/tex]

[tex]815915283247897734345611269596115894272000000000 = 40! = 8.159 \times 10^{47}[/tex]
 

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