Series Convergence: Showing Convergence & Sum Equivalence

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series sum_(n=0)^infinity (2^n x^n)/((1+x^2)^n) for various values of x, as well as its equivalence to another series involving 2nx^n. Participants explore the conditions under which the series converges and the implications of their findings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using the ratio and root tests to analyze the convergence of the series, noting that the limit |(2x)/(1+x^2)| does not depend on n.
  • Others express confusion about the implications of the limit being a real number, questioning whether it indicates convergence for all x, including x = 1 and x = -1.
  • A participant proposes setting z = (2x)/(1+x^2) to transform the series into a geometric series, which converges for |z| < 1, implying |x| < 1.
  • Another participant challenges the reasoning that led to the conclusion about convergence for x > 1, pointing out that the inequality derived does not hold for x < 1.
  • Some participants discuss the equivalence of the series to 1 + sum_(n=1)^infinity (2nx^n) and explore how to derive this relationship using properties of geometric series and derivatives.
  • There are requests for further clarification on the algebra involved in relating the series to its equivalent form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the convergence of the series for specific values of x, particularly at the endpoints of the interval. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which convergence is guaranteed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the convergence analysis depends on the conditions derived from the ratio test and the properties of geometric series, which may not be straightforward for all values of x. There are also mentions of additional conditions that need to be satisfied for convergence.

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This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts of mathematics, particularly those interested in series convergence, power series, and mathematical reasoning in analysis.

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a) Show that sum_(n=0)^infinity (2^n x^n)/((1+x^2)^n) converges for all x in R\{-1,1}

b) Even though this is not a power series show that sum above = 1 + sum_(n=1)^infinity (2nx^n) for all -1<x<=1.

For part a by the ratio and root test we get |(2x)/(1+x^2)| but this does not have an n in it anymore to take the limit as n -> infinity. So I guess this means that the limit as n-> infinity is just (2x)/(1+x^2) which is a real number for all x. So does this mean that it converges for all x since the limit exists and is real? But this logic would mean that it would also converge for 1 and -1 since 2(1)/(1+1^2) = 2/2=1 and the same for -1. But this is cleary not true.

For part b it is clear that the term is 1 when n=0 so I understand how it would be 1 + sum_(n=1)^infinity (2^n x^n)/((1+x^2)^n) but not sure how to deduce that its the sum of 2nx^n.

Any help is much appreciated! Thanks in advance!
 
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mathgirl said:
a) Show that sum_(n=0)^infinity (2^n x^n)/((1+x^2)^n) converges for all x in R\{-1,1}

b) Even though this is not a power series show that sum above = 1 + sum_(n=1)^infinity (2nx^n) for all -1<x<=1.

For part a by the ratio and root test we get |(2x)/(1+x^2)| but this does not have an n in it anymore to take the limit as n -> infinity. So I guess this means that the limit as n-> infinity is just (2x)/(1+x^2) which is a real number for all x. So does this mean that it converges for all x since the limit exists and is real? But this logic would mean that it would also converge for 1 and -1 since 2(1)/(1+1^2) = 2/2=1 and the same for -1. But this is cleary not true.

For part b it is clear that the term is 1 when n=0 so I understand how it would be 1 + sum_(n=1)^infinity (2^n x^n)/((1+x^2)^n) but not sure how to deduce that its the sum of 2nx^n.

Any help is much appreciated! Thanks in advance!

Wellcome on MHB mathgirl!...

For the point a) You can set $\displaystyle z= \frac{2\ x}{1 + x^{2}}$ and the series becomes $\displaystyle S(z) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} z^{n}$, a geometric series which converges for $\displaystyle |z|<1 \implies |x| < 1$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
I am not understanding. So (2x)/(1+x^2) < 1 => 2x < 1 + x^2 => 0 < x^2 - 2x + 1 => 0 < (x-1)^2 => 0 < x -1 => 1 < x. So I can understand how the series converges for x > 1 but what about for x < 1 like the problem states?
 
Hi mathgirl! Welcome to MHB! :)

mathgirl said:
I am not understanding. So (2x)/(1+x^2) < 1 => 2x < 1 + x^2 => 0 < x^2 - 2x + 1 => 0 < (x-1)^2 => 0 < x -1 => 1 < x. So I can understand how the series converges for x > 1 but what about for x < 1 like the problem states?

I'm afraid your reasoning is not entirely correct.

You have $0 < (x-1)^2$.
Note that a square is always positive or zero.
In this case the square is zero if $x=1$.
So the inequality is satisfied if $x\ne 1$.

Furthermore, you have the extra condition that $${2x \over 1+x^2} > -1$$.
That should give you another condition.
 
mathgirl said:
a) Show that sum_(n=0)^infinity (2^n x^n)/((1+x^2)^n) converges for all x in R\{-1,1}

b) Even though this is not a power series show that sum above = 1 + sum_(n=1)^infinity (2nx^n) for all -1<x<=1.

For part a by the ratio and root test we get |(2x)/(1+x^2)| but this does not have an n in it anymore to take the limit as n -> infinity. So I guess this means that the limit as n-> infinity is just (2x)/(1+x^2) which is a real number for all x. So does this mean that it converges for all x since the limit exists and is real? But this logic would mean that it would also converge for 1 and -1 since 2(1)/(1+1^2) = 2/2=1 and the same for -1. But this is cleary not true.

For part b it is clear that the term is 1 when n=0 so I understand how it would be 1 + sum_(n=1)^infinity (2^n x^n)/((1+x^2)^n) but not sure how to deduce that its the sum of 2nx^n.

Any help is much appreciated! Thanks in advance!

For part b) You can consider that... $\displaystyle 1 + \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} 2\ n\ x^{n} = 1 + 2\ x\ \frac{d}{dx} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} x^{n} = 1 + \frac{2\ x}{(1-x)^{2}}\ (1)$

... where the series in (1) is geometric so that it converges for |x|<1...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
Well I feel like an idiot now for part a and was making that way more difficult than it needed to be. Thank you both for the help.

If you could help me more on part b that would be great but not necessary. I guess I have had enough help at this point but anyway here goes...

So if n= 0 the sum becomes 1 + sum_{n=1}^inf (2^n x^n) / (1+x^2)^n. We can use the fact that it converges for all x in the interval -1<x<1 and so use the sum of the geometric series to get this is = 1 + 1/(1-r) = 1 + 1/(1-((2x)/(1+x^2))) = 1 + (1+x^2)/((x-1)^2) But now where?

I tried to work backwards like you suggested and I guess I do not understand the algebra cause I get that 1 + sum_{n=1}^inf (2nx^n) = 1 + 2 d/dx sum_{n=1}^inf x^n. Even if I understand the last equality you gave me I do not see how (2x)/(1-x)^2 relates to the give sum in part a.

More help is appreciated. Also, is there a tutorial on how to use math symbols and the programming that this site has to offer so i can better type this stuff up like you?
 
mathgirl said:
Well I feel like an idiot now for part a and was making that way more difficult than it needed to be. Thank you both for the help.

If you could help me more on part b that would be great but not necessary. I guess I have had enough help at this point but anyway here goes...

So if n= 0 the sum becomes 1 + sum_{n=1}^inf (2^n x^n) / (1+x^2)^n. We can use the fact that it converges for all x in the interval -1<x<1 and so use the sum of the geometric series to get this is = 1 + 1/(1-r) = 1 + 1/(1-((2x)/(1+x^2))) = 1 + (1+x^2)/((x-1)^2) But now where?

I tried to work backwards like you suggested and I guess I do not understand the algebra cause I get that 1 + sum_{n=1}^inf (2nx^n) = 1 + 2 d/dx sum_{n=1}^inf x^n. Even if I understand the last equality you gave me I do not see how (2x)/(1-x)^2 relates to the give sum in part a.

More help is appreciated. Also, is there a tutorial on how to use math symbols and the programming that this site has to offer so i can better type this stuff up like you?

I apologize for the hurry I had and I intend to repair with a more detailed explanation. I suppose You know the concept of power series and derivative. A power series in the complex plane is written as $\displaystyle f(z) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_{n}\ z^{n}$ and You can demonstrate that it converges inside a circle where is $\displaystyle |z-z_{0}|< r$. Another property of a power series is that the derivative $\displaystyle f^{\ '} (z) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n\ a_{n}\ z^{n-1}$ has the same circle of convergence of f(z) and vice-versa. The 'simplest' power series is the geometric series $\displaystyle f(z) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} z^{n} = \frac{1}{1 - z}$ for which is $z_{0}=0$ and r=1. Its derivative is $\displaystyle f^{\ '} (z) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} n\ z^{n-1} = \frac{1}{(1-z)^{2}}$ and it has the same circle of convergence. At this point I hope all is more clear for You and if not please don't exitate to require more explanation because 'nobody come from nothing'... Kind regards $\chi$ $\sigma$P.S. In MHB there is an excellent tutorial of LaTex and I suggest You to read it...
 

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