Sets: Is A ⊆ B? A={x ∈ ℤ | x ≡ 7 (mod 8)} B={x ∈ ℤ | x ≡ 3 (mod 4)}

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between two sets defined by modular arithmetic: A, which consists of integers congruent to 7 modulo 8, and B, which consists of integers congruent to 3 modulo 4. The original poster questions whether A is a subset of B.

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  • Participants explore the definitions of the sets and attempt to demonstrate the subset relationship through algebraic manipulation of the elements in A and B. Some participants question the validity of the original poster's reasoning and suggest alternative approaches to show the relationship.

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The discussion includes attempts to clarify the reasoning behind the subset relationship, with some participants providing algebraic transformations. There is a lack of consensus, as some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the claims made regarding the subset relationship.

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Participants are discussing the properties of integers and modular arithmetic, with some confusion about the notation used and the implications of the definitions of the sets.

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A={x ∈ ℤ | x ≡ 7 (mod 8)}
B={x ∈ ℤ | x ≡ 3 (mod 4)}

Is A ⊆ B? Yes

Since x ∈ A, then xa = 7 + 8a = 8a + 7 = 2(4a + 3) +1. And since the ∈ B are of the form xb = 3 + 4b = 4b + 3 = 2(2b + 1) + 1, both ∈ A,B are odd. A ⊆ B since the ∈ of both sets are of 2p + 1. Q.E.D.

Is this correct?
 
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No. You want to show that every element of A is an element of B. All you showed is that neither contains an even integer.

Try writing 7 + 8a in a form that shows it is in B.
 
I don't know how to go about doing that.
 
What is this character - ℤ ?

7 + 8a = 3 + 4 + 4(2a) = 3 + 4(1 + 2a)
 
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So do you see how the conclusion follows? It is pretty straight forward now.
 
Since x ∈ A, then x = 7 + 8a = 8a + 7 = 4(2a) + 4 + 3 = 4(2a + 1) + 3. And since the ∈ B are of the form x = 3 + 4b = 4b + 3, all x = 4p + 3 and A ⊆ B. Q.E.D.

Correct?
 

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