Shallow Water Seal Design for ROV Thruster Assembly

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The discussion revolves around the design of a waterproof shaft seal for an underwater remotely operated vehicle (ROV) thruster assembly. Participants explore the feasibility of using O-rings for sealing at shallow depths, machining considerations, and the implications of the thruster's movement on seal design.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using O-rings recessed into grooves as a simple sealing solution for a shaft operating at a maximum depth of 4 meters.
  • Another participant questions the rotation speed of the thruster and indicates that if the movement is slow and occasional, a single O-ring set may suffice.
  • Concerns are raised about sealing the drive shaft of a propeller, which may require a more complex arrangement if it involves continual fast movement.
  • A suggestion is made to use multiple O-rings (3-4) in a row for better sealing, particularly for the drive shaft.
  • Participants discuss machining techniques, with one noting that cutting a groove on the shaft itself may be easier than machining the inside of a hollow shaft.
  • Another participant mentions that traditional boat prop shaft seals are often placed in a replaceable housing, which could be a consideration for design.
  • There is an assumption that a hollow shaft is necessary to transmit power to the thruster motor, which may influence machining decisions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the adequacy of O-ring seals for the intended application, with some suggesting multiple O-rings may be necessary. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to machining the seal and the overall design considerations.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the optimal design for the shaft seal, and there are unresolved questions about the implications of the thruster's movement speed and the machining process.

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I asked another question in a previous thread, but this is a new issue so here's a new thread:

Basically I need to design some kind of waterproof shaft seal for the use of an underwater ROV. Following some earlier advice, I looked into the Parker O-ring Handbook and found the easiest way is just to have o-rings complete the seal, recessed into grooves.

The operating depth I expect to be working in will be no more than 4 meters, so it will be fairly shallow... will this simple o-ring seal be enough to keep water out? And if so, any advice as to how I should go about machining this seal?

It is going to be for a stepper motor that will let my thruster assembly rotate.

Thanks!
 
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How fast is it going to rotate?
If you just want a seal for the pitch bearing of a moveable thruster then an o'ring set would be fine (slow occasional movement)
If you want to seal the drive shaft of a prop ( continual fast movement) then it's trickier.

You want to use a number of O ring (3-4?) in a row. Probably easiest to turn the grooves in the shaft, you will also want some sort of collar to hold the shaft in place.
 
yea, its going to be slow occasional movement... a stepper or servo motor that adjusts the angle of the thruster from like 90 degrees, 45 degrees, etc... its not going to be as fast as like the thruster itself, and its not going to be constantly in motion

how would i turn a groove on the inside of a shaft thing though? the manual had pictures that implied cutting a groove on the inside, while the shaft itself was intact. but i guess it would be easier to cut a groove on the shaft itself...
 
Most boat prop shaft seals put the seals in a replaceable housing around the shaft.
This keeps the prop shaft intact and stronger but in your case it's probably easier to have the o ring grooves on the part that turns because it will be easier to machine and assemble.

I assume you are going to want a hollow shaft because you need to get power out to the thruster motor so you migth as well do all the tricky maching on this part.
 

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