Sherwood number of evaporating spherical droplet

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the Sherwood number (Sh) for a volatile spherical droplet evaporating in a quiescent atmosphere, utilizing Fick's Law of Diffusion. Participants explore the relationship between the Sherwood number, mass transfer coefficients, and diffusivity, while also addressing related calculations and assumptions.

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  • One participant questions the meaning of terms in Fick's Law and the implications of the equation for the problem at hand.
  • Another participant draws a parallel between the current problem and a previous heat transfer problem, suggesting a similar derivation approach.
  • A follow-up question is posed regarding the calculation of diffusivity, with specific values for the droplet's radius, molar density, and vapor pressure provided.
  • Participants discuss the calculation of the mass transfer coefficient (kA) and its implications for determining diffusivity (D), with some expressing uncertainty about the signs and units involved in their calculations.
  • Concerns are raised about the setup of the problem, particularly regarding the assumptions made about the molar density and the interpretation of the equations used.
  • One participant acknowledges a correction regarding the negative sign in their calculations and revises their estimate for the diffusivity, indicating a more reasonable order of magnitude.

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Participants express differing views on the setup of the problem and the interpretation of the equations. There is no clear consensus on the correct approach to calculating the diffusivity or the validity of the assumptions made in the derivation.

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Participants note potential limitations in their calculations, including issues with units and assumptions about the steady-state conditions of the evaporation process. The discussion reflects ongoing refinement of ideas and calculations without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


From Fick's Law of Diffusion, ##N_{A}C_{B} - N_{B}C_{A} = -DC \frac {dC_{A}}{dz}##

Prove that Sh=2 for a volatile spherical droplet evaporating in a quiescent atmosphere. (Sherwood number for a sphere is given by ##Sh = \frac {k_{A}d}{D}##, where d = initial droplet diameter). At large distances from the sphere the concentration of the volatile component is zero. The saturated vapor pressure is negligibly small compared to the atmospheric pressure.

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So I know ##P_{atm} \gg P^{*}##, and ##C_{A,\infty} = 0##. But how the heck can I use the equation to prove this relationship? I don't understand what the equation means. Is ##C_{B}## the concentration of air molecules in the spherical droplet? I would think the first term is just approximated as zero.
 
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Maylis said:

Homework Statement


From Fick's Law of Diffusion, ##N_{A}C_{B} - N_{B}C_{A} = -DC \frac {dC_{A}}{dz}##

Prove that Sh=2 for a volatile spherical droplet evaporating in a quiescent atmosphere. (Sherwood number for a sphere is given by ##Sh = \frac {k_{A}d}{D}##, where d = initial droplet diameter). At large distances from the sphere the concentration of the volatile component is zero. The saturated vapor pressure is negligibly small compared to the atmospheric pressure.

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The Attempt at a Solution


So I know ##P_{atm} \gg P^{*}##, and ##C_{A,\infty} = 0##. But how the heck can I use the equation to prove this relationship? I don't understand what the equation means. Is ##C_{B}## the concentration of air molecules in the spherical droplet? I would think the first term is just approximated as zero.
Would you believe that this is the same problem as the heat transfer problem you just solved? In the heat transfer problem, h = k/a= 2k/d. So the Nussult number is Nu = hd/k = 2.

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Wow, I would have never believed it. I did the derivation pretty much identical to that heat transfer problem, and got it.

Here is a follow up question

A volatile sphere has radius 0.01 m, molar density 5.0 kmol.m-3, and its saturated
vapor pressure at 20 C is 30 Pa. The time for it to evaporate at 20 C and 1 bar
pressure in still air is 32 days. Find the diffusivity of the vapor through the stagnant
air.

So, I know 30 Pa << 1 atm, so this should be basically a continuation of the previous problem. So
##Sh = 2 = \frac {k_{A} d}{D} ##, and I am looking for D. However, how can I go about calculating ##k_{A}##, since it is an unknown?

I have ##V \frac {dC_{A}}{dt} = -k_{A}AC_{A}^{*}##.
$$ \frac {4}{3} \pi r^3 \frac {dC_{A}}{dt} = -k_{A} 4 \pi r^2 C_{A}^{*}$$
$$ \frac {r}{3} \frac {dC_{A}}{dt} = -k_{A}C_{A}^{*} $$
So I will say ## \frac {dC_{A}}{dt} = \frac {5 - 0}{32 \times 24 \times 3600} = 1.81 \times 10^{-6}##, since it starts at 5 kmol/m^3, but after it evaporates it will have zero concentration. I guess this process is so slow that it is assumed to be steady state. so I calculate ##k_{A} = 2 \times 10^{-10}##, then plug back in and get ##D = 2 \times 10^{-12} \frac {kmol}{m^{2} s}##. Although, I still have that negative sign in here that shouldn't be there...
 
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Maylis said:
Wow, I would have never believed it. I did the derivation pretty much identical to that heat transfer problem, and got it.

Here is a follow up question

A volatile sphere has radius 0.01 m, molar density 5.0 kmol.m-3, and its saturated
vapor pressure at 20 C is 30 Pa. The time for it to evaporate at 20 C and 1 bar
pressure in still air is 32 days. Find the diffusivity of the vapor through the stagnant
air.

So, I know 30 Pa << 1 atm, so this should be basically a continuation of the previous problem. So
##Sh = 2 = \frac {k_{A} d}{D} ##, and I am looking for D. However, how can I go about calculating ##k_{A}##, since it is an unknown?

I have ##V \frac {dC_{A}}{dt} = -k_{A}AC_{A}^{*}##.
$$ \frac {4}{3} \pi r^3 \frac {dC_{A}}{dt} = -k_{A} 4 \pi r^2 C_{A}^{*}$$
$$ \frac {r}{3} \frac {dC_{A}}{dt} = -k_{A}C_{A}^{*} $$
So I will say ## \frac {dC_{A}}{dt} = \frac {5 - 0}{32 \times 24 \times 3600} = 1.81 \times 10^{-6}##, since it starts at 5 kmol/m^3, but after it evaporates it will have zero concentration. I guess this process is so slow that it is assumed to be steady state. so I calculate ##k_{A} = 2 \times 10^{-10}##, then plug back in and get ##D = 2 \times 10^{-12} \frac {kmol}{m^{2} s}##. Although, I still have that negative sign in here that shouldn't be there...
Regarding the negative sign, I guess the equation for dC/dt should have 0-5, rather than 5-0. The units on the diffusion coefficient look wrong. They should be m2/s. I haven't checked your arithmetic, but the diffusion coefficient looks way low (if it were in the correct units).

Chet
 
That is a good point, so then the units of ##k_{A} [=] \frac {kmol \hspace{0.05 in} s}{m \hspace{0.05 in} kg}##, but then multiplying by the diameter means D has units of ##\frac {kmol \hspace{0.05 in} s}{kg}##, so I can't get rid of this mole term, and without a specified species it shouldn't have anything to do with the molar mass.
 
Maylis,

I don't think you set up this problem correctly. The left side of the equation should read CdV/dt, where C is the molar density of the drop, which is not changing. The units of kA should be m/s. I assume you calculated C* correctly. You are solving for the radius of the drop as a function of time.

Chet
 
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Thanks a ton, I now get on the order of 10^-5, which sounds much better
 

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