Shielding Magnetic Fields: How Can We Measure and Contain Them?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around measuring and shielding magnetic fields, specifically in the context of bar magnets. Participants explore methods for measuring magnetic field strength and various approaches to effectively shield these fields from detection outside a designated area.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about measuring the magnetic field strength between two bar magnets with opposite poles facing each other.
  • Another suggests using a superconductor box to shield the magnetic fields, claiming it can divert all field lines.
  • A different participant proposes using a Hall Probe to measure the magnetic field and mentions that an iron box could be used for shielding, although this claim is later questioned.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of an iron box in separating magnetic field lines, prompting a request for clarification.
  • One participant expresses a need for energy-efficient options for shielding and seeks to calculate the magnetic field strength and the effect of shielding on field strength.
  • Another participant references external resources for magnetic shielding materials and concepts.
  • A later post asks how to calculate the magnetic field at a distance from a magnet and whether superposition applies when calculating the field strength between two magnets.
  • Lastly, a suggestion is made to consult advanced electrodynamics textbooks for complex solutions regarding magnetic field calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of various shielding methods, particularly regarding the use of iron boxes. There is no consensus on the best approach to measure or shield magnetic fields, and multiple competing ideas remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations regarding power supply for certain shielding methods and the complexity of calculations involved in determining magnetic field strength, indicating that assumptions about energy efficiency and mathematical approaches may affect their discussions.

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Hi everyone,

I have two questions related to magnetic fields.

Firstly, if I have two bar magnets with opposite poles facing each other, ie NS - NS, how do I measure the magnetic field strength at any point between the two magnets?

Secondly, how would I shield the magnetic fields of the bar magnets in a box so they are not detectable outside?

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
 
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Better way to prevent all the magnetic field lines from coming outside of the box is, use a box made up of a super conductor to separate bar magnets. The super conductor plate is able to divert all the field lines.
 
Use a "Hall Probe" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect_sensor) to measure the magnetic field from the Bar Magnet.

To shield the magnetic field , you could use an iron box to enclose the bar magnets .
(or a thin layer of iron foil would also suffice)
 
hi.hms.tech I don't think a iron box can separate magnetic field lines. I have doubt about it. Can you explain?
 
Thank you for your replies.

Better way to prevent all the magnetic field lines from coming outside of the box is, use a box made up of a super conductor to separate bar magnets. The super conductor plate is able to divert all the field lines.

That sounds useful, though unfortunately I'm restricted in terms of power supply in this setup, so I need to go with the most energy efficient option and avoid a current conductor of any sort if possible.

Use a "Hall Probe" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall_effect_sensor) to measure the magnetic field from the Bar Magnet.

To shield the magnetic field , you could use an iron box to enclose the bar magnets .
(or a thin layer of iron foil would also suffice)

The Hall probe will be useful for measuring, though what I should have written was how do I calculate the field?

Also for the iron box shielding, how do I calculate the change in field strength across the shielding?

Thanks again.
 
Check out the FAQs section of Magnetic Shield Corporation's website:

https://www.magnetic-shield.com/sitemap.html

They mostly sell netic and conetic magnetic shield material and shapes, but the concepts would apply to iron shielding as well.
 
Thanks for that - that will be useful.
However, if I have a shield at a distance from a magnet, how do I calculate the field at that distance?
In a related question, if I have two magnets, how do I calculate the field strength at any point between them - is it merely by superposition or are there other parameters to take into account?
 
I would look into an advanced electrodynamics textbook, there are closed form solutions for what you need, although they will be very very complicated and require a far field approximation.
 

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