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The problem involves a mass suspended from a vertical spring, released from rest, and falling a certain distance before coming to rest. Participants are tasked with finding the period of the oscillatory motion resulting from this setup.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the period, spring constant, and mass, questioning how to determine the period without explicit values for k or m. Some explore the use of restoring forces and the equations of motion, while others reflect on the significance of amplitude in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved. Some participants have offered insights into the equations that relate acceleration, angular frequency, and period, while others have clarified their understanding of the amplitude in relation to the problem.

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Participants are navigating the implications of the given data, particularly the interpretation of the distance fallen and its relation to amplitude. There is a recognition of potential misunderstandings regarding the definitions and roles of the variables in the equations discussed.

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Homework Statement



An object is hung on the end of a vertical spring and is released from rest with the spring unstressed. If the object falls 3.42 cm before coming to rest, find the period of the resulting oscillatory motion.

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This was a homework question given and the answer is in the back of the book and it says
T = .262 seconds. Now i have no clue how they got this because I thought that the period was related to the spring constant and the mass but not to the amplitude so how can we find T if neither k nor m is given?
 
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nrweis said:
so how can we find T if neither k nor m is given?

Hi nrweis, welcome to PF!

You can deduce something about them from the restoring force that is required to balance the object's weight.
 
Welcome to PF.

You don't necessarily need m and k, because don't you also know that

a(t) = ω2*x(t)

Won't a(t) = 9.8 at x/2 from the dead weight equilibrium point, which is at the peak of its oscillation?

Since ω = 2πf = 2π/T ...
 
Ok I thought about it for a while and thought I was on the right track but still got it wrong. This is what i did:

F=k∆x
mg=k∆x

√(g/∆x)= √(k/m)=ω=2π(1/T)

√(g/∆x)= 2π(1/T)

T=2π√(∆x/g)

and I got like .37 seconds.
Was I on the right track?
 
now I'm all confused. I was thinking that delta x was the amplitude
 
ok I just misunderstood the question. When I divided the 3.42 cm by 2 and reentered it to the formula I got the right answer. Thanks guys.
 
nrweis said:
now I'm all confused. I was thinking that delta x was the amplitude

Yes. Δx is the amplitude, but the x-position function which expresses x as a function of time is only x/2 distant from the mid point.

Congrats on figuring it out.
 

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