Shotgun Licence Refused: 25 Years of Good Behaviour

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The discussion revolves around the refusal of a shotgun license renewal after 25 years of good behavior, with participants exploring the implications of past actions on current legal standings. The conversation touches on themes of gun control, personal rights, and the fairness of legal systems, with references to both personal anecdotes and broader societal issues.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration over the refusal of their shotgun license renewal despite 25 years of good behavior, suggesting that this should demonstrate a reformed character.
  • Another participant humorously suggests moving to America for more lenient gun laws, indicating a perceived disparity in regulations between countries.
  • Some participants question the necessity of surrendering the shotgun and discuss the possibility of appealing the decision or finding alternative arrangements for the firearm's safekeeping.
  • There are references to past incidents involving law enforcement, with one participant recounting an accidental injury to a policeman, raising questions about how past actions influence current legal standings.
  • Several comments reflect on the perceived hypocrisy in the legal system, comparing the participant's situation to that of public figures who have faced less severe consequences for past indiscretions.
  • Humorous exchanges about political aspirations and fast food highlight a shift in tone, moving away from the serious topic of gun control to light-hearted banter.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with some agreeing that 25 years of good behavior should suffice for a license renewal, while others highlight the complexities of legal regulations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the fairness and implications of the law in this context.

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Participants reference specific legal frameworks and personal experiences, indicating that the discussion is influenced by individual circumstances and varying interpretations of the law. There is an acknowledgment of the emotional weight of the situation, but no consensus on the appropriateness of the legal outcome.

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I have had a shot gun for five years, used for clay shooting, but the law has
(reviewed) my case and refused a renewal, on the strenght of things i did in
the past, so now i have to hand in my beloved s57, i would have thought that 25yrs of good behaviour would have been good enough to show a reformed character.:cry:
 
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Move to America, you can borrow my M16 if you'd like (I wish, TOO Expensive!). :smile:
 
You have to actually hand in your shotgun? Do you live in Massachusettes? :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
wolram said:
I have had a shot gun for five years, used for clay shooting, but the law has
(reviewed) my case and refused a renewal, on the strenght of things i did in
the past, so now i have to hand in my beloved s57, i would have thought that 25yrs of good behaviour would have been good enough to show a reformed character.:cry:
Hopefully you can appeal. In the meantime, do you have a trusted friend to whom you could entrust it for safe keeping?

I would think 25 years of good behavior is sufficient to show a reformed character.
 
wolram said:
I have had a shot gun for five years, used for clay shooting, but the law has
(reviewed) my case and refused a renewal, on the strenght of things i did in
the past, so now i have to hand in my beloved s57, i would have thought that 25yrs of good behaviour would have been good enough to show a reformed character.:cry:

Now this is really ironic. Bush committed some indiscretions in his younger years and he was elected president of the USA. :rolleyes:
 
Pengwuino said:
You have to actually hand in your shotgun? Do you live in Massachusettes? :smile: :smile: :smile:

No i live in the rotten old Uk, where lawannora has gone nutts
 
wolram for US pres... oh wait...
 
Pengwuino said:
wolram for US pres... oh wait...

Hey,. i would be a good president, for a start i would ban mac donnelds and
replace them with salad bars.
 
I'd vote for you *if and only if* you bought me a GSXR 750.

This is why gun control is stupid. What business do they have taking your gun away when you have done nothing wrong!? STUPID, JUST STUPID! Well, there goes one more of your rights! :rolleyes:
 
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wolram said:
Hey,. i would be a good president, for a start i would ban mac donnelds and
replace them with salad bars.

NO!

You would have to be impeached.

Don't take away our fast food!
 
  • #11
You shot the constables pet pigeon by mistake, didn't you?

All joking aside, I find it hard to believe that something which happened 25-years ago would have such an outcome. Redress the court, bring your friends and neighbors!
 
  • #12
pallidin said:
You shot the constables pet pigeon by mistake, didn't you?

All joking aside, I find it hard to believe that something which happened 25-years ago would have such an outcome. Redress the court, bring your friends and neighbors!

No i did by accident break a policemans finger, but that was 25 yrs ago, and he was poke ing me with it, that would be called assult now, and my reaction self defence.
 
  • #13
Astronuc said:
Hopefully you can appeal. In the meantime, do you have a trusted friend to whom you could entrust it for safe keeping?

I would think 25 years of good behavior is sufficient to show a reformed character.
May be you guys at PFs will give me a good reference?
 
  • #14
It is just so not fair, i mean, i will not even kill the wood pigs that roam my cottage, yet alone shoot a human.
 
  • #15
wolram said:
No i live in the rotten old Uk, where lawannora has gone nutts
Geez, whatever happened to "Merry Old England"? :smile: I always thought there was something rotten in Denmark - but England?

If they let Prince Philip carry a gun . . . :rolleyes:

Can you talk to a magistrate or someone?

The fact that you've had the gun this long without further incident . . . er, you have been a good boy right? :rolleyes: :smile:
 
  • #16
Astronuc said:
Geez, whatever happened to "Merry Old England"? :smile: I always thought there was something rotten in Denmark - but England?

If they let Prince Philip carry a gun . . . :rolleyes:

Can you talk to a magistrate or someone?

The fact that you've had the gun this long without further incident . . . er, you have been a good boy right? :rolleyes: :smile:

I have been a law abiding guy for 25 yrs, but if i wanted to be a taxi driver
i would not be able, because of my (record), heck why do i get all the hassel, when murderers get away with 5 years in clink
 
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Can you give the gun to Kia? But then you could never legally use it.
 
  • #18
Evo said:
Can you give the gun to Kia? But then you could never legally use it.
i wish these things were more simple, but i would give up my gun for you
any day :smile: :smile:
 
  • #19
wolram said:
Pengwuino said:
wolram for US pres... oh wait...
Hey,. i would be a good president, for a start i would ban mac donnelds and
replace them with salad bars.
Pengwuino what have you done.What other presidents been talking before they were president?
 
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scott1 said:
Pengwuino what have you done.What other presidents been talking before they were president?
i would start, a more more healthy regimen, for you, no burgers or fries,
heck that alone must put me in office of US president.
 
  • #21
wolram said:
i would start, a more more healthy regimen, for you, no burgers or fries,
heck that alone must put me in office of US president.
What are going to do about Iraq
Terroist
Education
The Ecconmy(if it existed)
Secert wiretapping
etc.
 
  • #22
scott1 said:
What are going to do about Iraq
Terroist
Education
The Ecconmy(if it existed)
Secert wiretapping
etc.

Leave them alone, let them sort out their differences we do not know the
problems they face.

Pay as you go no credit, if you can not afford it do not buy it.

if your government thinks they are under attack ,they must be allowed to sort the problems out, if it is not to your licking elect some one who is.
 
  • #23
wolram said:
No i did by accident break a policemans finger, but that was 25 yrs ago, and he was poke ing me with it, that would be called assult now, and my reaction self defence.

"Accident?" Battery is battery. Were you informed at the time you applied for the license that it could be revoked if the moon phase changed? I'll do the "provincial" thing and point out that you primitives in the old country are "backward," licensing convicted felons to carry firearms, and then, this is the "backward" part, reviewing such licenses and revoking them on the basis of the original conviction.

You did pick up the license on the basis of a "full disclosure" of your past?
 
  • #24
wolram said:
i would start, a more more healthy regimen, for you, no burgers or fries,
heck that alone must put me in office of US president.
pfft...! don't EVER take away fast-food...especially KFC or Dairy Queen...
 
  • #25
yomamma said:
pfft...! don't EVER take away fast-food...especially KFC or Dairy Queen...

That's not fast food. It's slow crap
 
  • #26
you're slow crap
 
  • #27
oooooooooooooooooo
 
  • #28
I see we have an audience
 
  • #29
fight to the death.
 
  • #30
All I have to do is step on him...
 

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