News Should Great Britain abolish its monarchy?

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The discussion centers on whether Great Britain should abolish its monarchy, with participants expressing mixed opinions. Some argue that the monarchy is an outdated institution that serves no purpose in modern society, while others believe it provides historical significance and generates tourism revenue. The debate also touches on the monarchy's celebrity status and its perceived trivialization in contemporary culture. Additionally, there is confusion about the terminology used to describe the UK, Great Britain, and England, highlighting the importance of accurate language in political discussions. Overall, the monarchy's relevance and impact on British identity remain contentious topics.

Should the monarchy in Great Britain be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 27 54.0%

  • No

    Votes: 23 46.0%
  • Total voters
    50
  • #51
Telos said:
It was a poor example, or at least I wrote it very poorly. I apologize.

I did some more reading on the matter. I honestly didn't realize that England, Scotland, and Wales were also considered countries. I guess I have the lingering US mindset of e pluribus unum, that only one country makes a nation, and forgot that your nation was united under different circumstances.

Ah, but you forgot about the crown dependencies, the overseas territories, and Northern Ireland! :smile:
 
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  • #52
brewnog said:
Ah, but you forgot about the crown dependencies, the overseas territories, and Northern Ireland! :smile:

Those are all considered countries in their own right as well? :confused:
 
  • #53
I don't think Wales is considered a country, although they have given it some limited home rule. It was conquered in the middle ages and since then has formed part of the country England. It is a principality, and Charles is its prince. What did you think "Prince of Wales" meant?
 
  • #54
selfAdjoint said:
What did you think "Prince of Wales" meant?

Absolutely nothing; a vacuous false-title of antiquated good-for-nothingness. Why else would we be having the discussion of abolishing a monarchy? It's not like it would be a "revolution."

Would it?
 
  • #55
Telos said:
It's not like it would be a "revolution."

Would it?
It damned sure would be if the Kennedy's from America worked up a militia and overthrew the crown, and claimed it for themselves.
 
  • #56
Telos said:
Absolutely nothing; a vacuous false-title of antiquated good-for-nothingness. Why else would we be having the discussion of abolishing a monarchy? It's not like it would be a "revolution."

Would it?


According to popular opinion here, no, as long as national income wasn't affected. The tories might have something to say about it, but I haven't met any here who are willing to voice an opinion.
 
  • #57
brewnog said:
According to popular opinion here, no, as long as national income wasn't affected. The tories might have something to say about it, but I haven't met any here who are willing to voice an opinion.

Wait a sec... the tories still exist? I remember hearing about them in history, but that is about it. Then again, I'm not up-to-date with my foreign affairs.
 
  • #58
motai said:
Wait a sec... the tories still exist? I remember hearing about them in history, but that is about it. Then again, I'm not up-to-date with my foreign affairs.

Urrrm, yes. They were in power until 1997... :smile:
 
  • #59
Isn't it funny that Great Britain is smaller than Britain (when using Britain to refer to the entire country)?
 
  • #60
Dissident Dan said:
Isn't it funny that Great Britain is smaller than Britain (when using Britain to refer to the entire country)?


No, because they're the same thing. Keep up! The 'Great' part is redundant in the English language, but the French still need its inclusion to distinguish it from Brittany (Bretagne).
 
  • #61
Ah, so Great Brittain is Grande Bretagne in French.

But doesn't that piss off the French people living in Bretagne?
 
  • #62
Telos said:
Ah, so Great Brittain is Grande Bretagne in French.

But doesn't that piss off the French people living in Bretagne?

Not comparing size of each Bretagne then it could be other way around, English could be pissed off that their country is called after French district Bretagne
 
  • #64
If anyone tried a military coup the Queen would order the worlds best and most powerful army in the world to crush you ****ers. The army swear legence to the Queen. The royal perogative gives her the legal right to rage any war without the say of the british people or parliament. What the rest of the world and most Britons don't realize is that the queen has control of the best armed forces in the world. Deep down everyone loves the royal family and what they stand for. Without them the world would be a very different place. America, Britain and the commonwealth owe a great deal to them, as our wealth would never have existed without them.
 
  • #65
The monarchy stays, simple as that. Brings in far too much money to get rid of them.
 
  • #66
Hey Andy, look! A new comrade!

Welcome crazy fairy!
 
  • #67
WTF? Crazy fairy?
 
  • #68
Britain is also often used when talking about the island of Great Britain.

The term "Britain" came from one of the inital inhabitants of the Island, and thus was coined to be used as the island...
England, Scotland and Wales. Wales is a principality. There are also Crown Dependencies and British Overseas Territories, but nobody wants to know about those, and nobody really knows where they all are anyway.
What about Scotland? Not only are we a Principality (edit: actually Scotland is a kingdom not a principality) but we have our own languages (like Wales but more of them) and we have our own parliament :-) And if SNP get in Power we will be a separate country again after 300 odd years of a union that has done the Scots more harm than good /rant

I voted No. The UK isn't a Republic and never will be, however we all know the Stewarts should be on the thrown ;-)

I do, however, tend to agree with Waste because the current family is actually of German descent.
True, but all the arostorcratcies in Europe are related.. The English are Anglo saxons after all..
 
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  • #69
I don't think Wales is considered a country, although they have given it some limited home rule. It was conquered in the middle ages and since then has formed part of the country England. It is a principality, and Charles is its prince. What did you think "Prince of Wales" meant?

When the Stewarts were on the thrown of England and Scotland both countries were still countries in there own right, but shared a king.. Wales is a separate country in my opinion...

Isn't it funny that Great Britain is smaller than Britain (when using Britain to refer to the entire country)?

Britain isn't a country! Neither is Great Britain...
 
  • #70
If anyone tried a military coup the Queen would order the worlds best and most powerful army in the world to crush you ****ers. The army swear legence to the Queen. The royal perogative gives her the legal right to rage any war without the say of the british people or parliament. What the rest of the world and most Britons don't realize is that the queen has control of the best armed forces in the world. Deep down everyone loves the royal family and what they stand for. Without them the world would be a very different place. America, Britain and the commonwealth owe a great deal to them, as our wealth would never have existed without them.

Heh, and most of "her" Army is now Scottish not English (Well the best troops are : SAS) So the Queen better not deside to wage war up north again hehe
 
  • #71
Absolutely nothing; a vacuous false-title of antiquated good-for-nothingness. Why else would we be having the discussion of abolishing a monarchy? It's not like it would be a "revolution."

Would it?

For someone who knows very little about the UK you don't half have some opinions...

And YES it would be a revolution!
 
  • #72
Wow.. I think I am getting an insight about how annoying it must be for the Americans here having to listen to "foreigners" Rant about there political systems and there country..

What I mean by this is do we sound as ignorant when talking about your constitution and even basic Geography as you guys are sounding about the U.K. ?

No offence intended
 
  • #73
I can't believe there is soo much confusion over this.
 
  • #74
Nobody's even mentioned the Isle of Man which happens to have the oldest surviving parliament in the world and funnily enough, although situated in the Irish Sea between Ireland and Great Britain aren't part of the E.U.
btw Wales IS a country in it's own right.
 

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