Should I add KSP in my MIT college application?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the appropriateness of including experiences from the Kerbal Space Program (KSP) in a college application to MIT, particularly for a prospective student interested in aerospace engineering. Participants explore the relevance of gaming experiences in the context of academic admissions, as well as the broader implications of application strategies and the competitive nature of MIT's admissions process.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that including KSP missions in an application may not impress MIT admissions, arguing that it does not demonstrate serious academic or engineering accomplishments.
  • Others counter that personal interests, including gaming experiences, can be relevant if framed appropriately in the application, emphasizing the application of knowledge gained through KSP.
  • A participant highlights the importance of thoroughly understanding MIT's admissions criteria and the competitive landscape, noting the low acceptance rates for international applicants.
  • Concerns are raised about the perception of gaming as a serious accomplishment in the context of elite university admissions.
  • One participant expresses frustration over perceived rudeness in responses, advocating for a more supportive community approach.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for applicants to demonstrate serious academic achievements, such as winning math or science competitions, to improve their chances of admission.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the value of including KSP experiences in the application. There are competing views on how gaming experiences are perceived in the context of academic admissions, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for the applicant.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the applicant's understanding of MIT's admissions process and the competitive nature of the applicant pool is crucial. There are also references to the need for strong academic credentials, such as participation in Olympiads, which may influence admissions outcomes.

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Hello family, :smile:
I am applying to MIT this year for fall of 2019 in dept of Aero And Astro
I am seeking for some advice, that if there is any space for adding KSP missions(Obviously successful ones) in my college application and also some of Astrodynamics and Astrophysics I know...
My Mini ISS
ms7ovy


Warm Regards Dear Friends
 

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Prof Sabi said:
KSP missions
Games? MIT? Think.
 
If KSP stands for Kerbal Space Program, MIT won't be impressed by how many missions you have "flown." I agree with @Bystander.
 
Prof Sabi said:
I am applying to MIT this year for fall of 2019 in dept of Aero And Astro

No you're not. You need to look very carefully at MIT's admissions pages.

Prof Sabi said:
I am seeking for some advice, that if there is any space for adding KSP missions(Obviously successful ones) in my college application

MIT's advice is to be yourself. Just because Bystander wouldn't, and Mark wouldn't and I wouldn't doesn't mean you shouldn't.
 
Why I won't :woot: This November is the application dates... I saw in on the deadlines section​
 
Looking very carefully does not mean guessing what I mean and taking a quick glance at the application dates. That's pretty much the opposite of looking carefully.
 
Prof Sabi said:
Why I won't :woot: This November is the application dates... I saw in on the deadlines section​
Prof Sabi said:
I am applying to MIT this year for fall of 2019 in dept of Aero And Astro
Relax. This is a stressful enough time in your life. The deadlines are listed here:

http://mitadmissions.org/apply/freshman/dates

But note the following:

http://mitadmissions.org/discover/majors

Many universities are partitioned into schools or colleges. At some universities, depending on your intended major, you apply to a specific school or college. At MIT, you do not: you simply apply to MIT; you don't declare a major until after your freshman year. So formally you will not be applying to the Dept of Aero and Astro.
 
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Well vanadium said it in a way, :nb) I thought I won't be able to apply hehe...
 
Prof Sabi said:
Well vanadium said it in a way, :nb) I thought I won't be able to apply hehe...
I realize that. That was a valid interpretation. Didn't want to leave you in a state of angst. Good luck on your application.

ETA: Just looked up your profile. It states "completed undergrad". Maybe I'm the one confused. Are you planning to apply for undergrad or grad?
 
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The point I was trying to make is that he has to look very carefully at the information MIT provides. MIT accepts 4-5 students annually from India, out of "hundreds" of applicants from India. So we're looking at a success rate of about 1%. If it's too much bother to read this carefully and you need to be spoon-fed this information, that does not bode well.
 
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I'm in high school.. I made a mistake there sorry for that. Vanadium, please don't take it seriously, I just wanted to say that I wish to study aerospace engineering in MIT ( but I said something different that confused you ). Sorry for the confusion I made within you o_O Wish you a nice day...
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
The point I was trying to make is that he has to look very carefully at the information MIT provides. MIT accepts 4-5 students annually from India, out of "hundreds" of applicants from India. So we're looking at a success rate of about 1%. If it's too much bother to read this carefully and you need to be spoon-fed this information, that does not bode well.
Well now I can't resist myself anymore typing this, but doesn't anyone thinks Vanadium50 is getting rude :confused: I think this forum as a family, that's why I asked the question, and this doesn't means you will become a philosopher and say these all unnecessary things...And For your kind information, I know that MIT accepts 4-5 out of hundreds o0), and what's wrong with you why are you so angry with your every post? Have I said something offending to you? :eek:

Warm Regards
 
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Prof Sabi said:
Well now I can't resist myself anymore typing this, but doesn't anyone thinks Vanadium50 is getting rude :confused: I think this forum as a family, that's why I asked the question, and this doesn't means you will become a philosopher and say these all unnecessary things...And For your kind information, I know that MIT accepts 4-5 out of hundreds o0), and what's wrong with you why are you so angry with your every post? Have I said something offending to you? :eek:

Warm Regards

Do a search on the forum -- regarding MIT application from students outside US, emphasis India but other countries too. You aren't the first or second or third ... to ask this. He's trying to help you out.
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An idea from probability is useful here -- specifically conditioning.

Ask yourself, have you won at least one math Olympiad or equivalent science medal?

If not, your chance of getting in is significantly ##\lt 1##%. If yes, then great but then I don't understand the question about KSP.
 
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Prof Sabi said:
Well now I can't resist myself anymore typing this, but doesn't anyone thinks Vanadium50 is getting rude

If you think that was rude, you will not believe MIT.
 
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What do mean by "you will not BELIEVE MIT"
 
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MIT is a much tougher place. Sure it's nice to be told you're the bestest, bestest student ever, and a shoo-in to MIT even if you can't be bothered to read the information the Institute provides on admissions - or think that playing computer games is one of your greatest accomplishments. But MIT doesn't work this way. If being told that you have to put in a little elbow grease to achieve your goals is too much for you, MIT is not a place you will be very happy.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
MIT is a much tougher place. Sure it's nice to be told you're the bestest, bestest student ever, and a shoo-in to MIT even if you can't be bothered to read the information the Institute provides on admissions - or think that playing computer games is one of your greatest accomplishments. But MIT doesn't work this way. If being told that you have to put in a little elbow grease to achieve your goals is too much for you, MIT is not a place you will be very happy.
See vanadium please, you are not getting my point, I am not a computer addict, I study, really... You may be thinking, I play woooo computer games, but I don't, believe me in India you don't get time to play games during IIT JEE Preparation, just because summer vacations started I built some rockets and mini ISS to convince people at MIT that I can apply the mooc's and Astro book's knowledge in so called real life through Kerbal space program, well its true that I don't have international olympiads medals but I am trying this year to appear for those exams. I don't know if you are taking me as a gamer guy or something but here we have a small group where we discuss and read books related to our life time career i.e. space, also I don't lack in academics in my school, I don't want to say about me but I am saying these just in case you get any wrong picture of me in your mind, and also I really apologize for the rude part :sorry:.. Can we be friends?​
 
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MIT gets about 20,000 applications every year for about 1500 places. How does playing video games signal to the admissions office that you have educational needs and potential that can only be fulfilled at an elite institution?

Even video game design programs don't consider number of hours spent playing video games to be relevant for admission, let alone science or engineering.

If you want to talk about it as a personal interest in your essay, then feel free to mention it. But you will not likely be taken seriously if you try to hold it up as an argument for why you, instead of the thousands of other people competing for your place, deserve to be accepted.
 
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jack476 said:
MIT gets about 20,000 applications every year for about 1500 places. How does playing video games signal to the admissions office that you have educational needs and potential that can only be fulfilled at an elite institution?

Even video game design programs don't consider number of hours spent playing video games to be relevant for admission, let alone science or engineering.

If you want to talk about it as a personal interest in your essay, then feel free to mention it. But you will not likely be taken seriously if you try to hold it up as an argument for why you, instead of the thousands of other people competing for your place, deserve to be accepted.
Got it :) Thanks
 

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