Should I argue with my professor on this?

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The discussion centers around concerns regarding an unfair midterm exam in a first-year chemistry course, where students felt that only a portion of the exam reflected the material covered in class. Many students reported that significant topics outlined by the professor were absent from the exam, while questions included content not found in their textbook. There is a debate on whether to confront the professor directly about these issues or to seek assistance from student administration, especially since a large number of students shared similar frustrations. Participants emphasize the importance of gathering evidence, such as exam statistics, to support claims of unfairness. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the challenges of transitioning from high school to college-level expectations in assessments.
  • #91
flyingpig said:
For some reason, we are not allowed to get the exam back. But class average was 40%... and no scaling.

Wow...that's a *very* poor policy. I've never heard of such a thing. What's the professor's justification for not handing back the exams?
 
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  • #92
lisab said:
Wow...that's a *very* poor policy. I've never heard of such a thing. What's the professor's justification for not handing back the exams?

No one had the guts to ask...

Let's just say when our prof announced it, the atmosphere was very dark...

I should also mention that it has been a week after the midterm and it seems like the professor "moved on" because nothing of the midterm was ever spoken again.
 
  • #93
atyy said:
twofish-quant said:
Welcome to college. You should give your professor a gift and say good things about them in their student evaluation because they are doing what a college professor should do.

You are not in high school any more. The rules are different. Most of the material on college tests will not be material that is directly covered in the courses and this is a good thing. Learn to get used to this, because this is going to be the way things are for now on, not just in college but in life.

The good news is that it probably won't damage your grades. You'll get a grade that seems really bad, but because things are curved, if you answer three questions out of five and most other people answer two, then you'll end up with a good grade.
I hope MIT isn't like this.

It's not, or at least not anymore. Either that, or I've had an extremely easy course-load.
 
  • #94
lisab said:
Wow...that's a *very* poor policy. I've never heard of such a thing. What's the professor's justification for not handing back the exams?

i've been in classes that have had this policy. you were never given your exams back even at the end of the semester. one person asked why and the teacher said he had to keep them for records / grades or something like that. real vague answer. if you wanted to look at the exam you could go to office hours and view it there in their presence.
 
  • #95
flyingpig said:
No one had the guts to ask...

Let's just say when our prof announced it, the atmosphere was very dark...

I should also mention that it has been a week after the midterm and it seems like the professor "moved on" because nothing of the midterm was ever spoken again.

flyingpig said:
For some reason, we are not allowed to get the exam back. But class average was 40%... and no scaling.

sounds like it's time to take a visit to the deans office
 
  • #96
proof said:
i've been in classes that have had this policy. you were never given your exams back even at the end of the semester. one person asked why and the teacher said he had to keep them for records / grades or something like that. real vague answer. if you wanted to look at the exam you could go to office hours and view it there in their presence.
Well, if you can see the exams, I don't really see a problem as far as this is concerned.
 
  • #97
Ryker said:
Well, if you can see the exams, I don't really see a problem as far as this is concerned.

still a very strange policy...
 
  • #98
not to go into detail of effective teaching style,

OP, if I am in your situation I would want to think of a solution. Why can't you go talk to the professor? I don't mean go to argue or complain, but go talk to him/her politely and ask for advice on how to better approach this kind of exam. I would want to know the reasoning behind giving this kind of exam. And if you can't fix this midterm grade, then you will want to know how to do better next time right?
That's my opinion, but I am used to all my professors being very reasonable and helpful (and I am thankful for having them as my professors).
 
  • #99
proof said:
i've been in classes that have had this policy. you were never given your exams back even at the end of the semester. one person asked why and the teacher said he had to keep them for records / grades or something like that. real vague answer. if you wanted to look at the exam you could go to office hours and view it there in their presence.

yeah pretty much, except that the office hours are nearly incompatible with many people
 
  • #100
Then you make an appointment.
 

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