Should I Take Algebra-Based or Calculus-Based Physics?

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The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to take algebra-based or calculus-based physics for students majoring in physics. Participants share their experiences and opinions on the advantages and challenges of each option, considering the concurrent enrollment in calculus courses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that taking calculus-based physics alongside calculus II is manageable, especially if students keep up with homework.
  • Others argue that calculus-based physics provides a better understanding of physics concepts and is more relevant for physics majors.
  • There is a belief among some that algebra-based physics may not be beneficial for physics majors, as it could lead to redundancy in learning when transitioning to calculus-based physics.
  • Some participants mention that the overlap between calculus and physics can aid in comprehension, suggesting that understanding one may enhance understanding of the other.
  • A few participants express that taking algebra-based physics could result in merely memorizing formulas without a deeper understanding of the material.
  • One participant notes that some professors encourage taking both courses simultaneously for a more rounded understanding of the concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that calculus-based physics is more suitable for physics majors, but there are differing opinions on the necessity and benefits of taking algebra-based physics beforehand. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for individual students based on their circumstances.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the difficulty of calculus II and the potential workload of taking multiple courses simultaneously, indicating that individual experiences may vary based on personal capabilities and institutional factors.

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Hi,

I am planning on majoring in physics and I am wondering if there is any advantage to taking algebra-based physics before calculus-based. I will have had calc 1 when it is time to take the physics course, so I will be taking calc 2 along with 2 other math/science courses at the same time. I have heard calc 2 is a difficult course, so I am curious as to whether the calc-based physics would be too much.

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I took Calc 2 and the first quarter of Calc-based Physics (Mechanics) last quarter. It wasn't too bad, there were points where the material actually overlapped between classes (work, center of mass, etc.). As long as you keep up with the homework it shouldn't be too bad.
 
I too think you should take the calculus based physics course. In addition to the point raised above, it wiill serve as a good gauge of whether or not you want to be majoring in Physics. If you can handle Calc 2 with Calc-based Physics and another science course, you're doing fine. If you can't, you will in all likelihood, find the rest of the program a struggle.

To paraphrase Feynman: Shut up and Calc! :biggrin:
 
it will be hard, but i agree that the overlap will help. and for understanding, really i think neither subject can be understood without the other.
 
Well, if you can't manage Calc II and Physics I in the same semester, I don't know how well you'll be able to cope with the rest of the program. That depends on your school, of course, but still. . .

Really, if you are going into the Physics, there is not much point to taking an Algebra based course. Most schools don't put them toward your major in any way, and you'll just be covering everything over again, and extra as soon as you hit Calc Phys. And Physics without Calculus is like a something that needs another something to be really good that does not have that something. Insert your own analogy.

It won't be that difficult, unless you get a professor who rides you pretty hard. Keep on top of your homework, and try and make sure you don't drop behind in either class, and you'll be fine.
 
Do the Calculus based physics course..it will prob be harder, but in many ways easier, if you understand the calculus.
 
I think you'll find calculus beautiful in a way, and it gets to be even more exciting when you learn how to apply it!
 
Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it.
 
some professors even encourage it. they believe the concepts from calculus and calculus-based physics complement each other quite well; additionally they provide different ways to understand the same material. If you struggle with mathematical concepts, the physical interpretation of calc might be easier for you to understand. And vice versa.
 
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To Calc! Definitely.

If you are planning a major in physics then you will be frequently taking math and physics courses simultaneously (much harder ones) so might as well start now. Also Algebra based physics is, imho, a waste of time since you will be relearning all of it in the calc based one, only with the whole picture in mind.
 
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Calc, definitely. Otherwise you'll just be memorizing formulas and plugging in values without really understanding what is going on.
 
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Calculus...
 
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It's not even a question, if you majoring in physics take calc-based physics. I'm sure if you meet with you university's advising center or you advisor or something of the like, they'll tell you the same thing.
 

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