Should I Take High School AP Calculus? Math & Physics Books to Consider

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The discussion centers on whether a high school student should take AP Calculus or wait until college, considering their current math background and future aspirations in physics or astrophysics. Participants also share recommendations for physics and math self-teaching books.

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  • Some participants argue that taking AP Calculus in high school is beneficial and prepares students well for college-level calculus, while others express skepticism about its effectiveness.
  • A participant shares their experience of finding college calculus significantly harder than high school calculus, emphasizing the importance of effort in high school.
  • Another participant reflects on their regret for not taking AP Calculus, suggesting that early exposure to calculus can ease the transition to college.
  • Some participants mention that while high school calculus covers similar material to college calculus, the depth of understanding required in college is greater.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential difficulty of retaking calculus in college if a student struggles after taking it in high school.
  • Several participants share personal experiences, with mixed outcomes regarding the effectiveness of high school calculus in preparing them for college courses.
  • Recommendations for physics and math books are provided, with some participants suggesting that certain texts may be too advanced for the current level of the original poster.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of taking AP Calculus in high school, with no consensus reached on whether it is definitively beneficial or not. Some believe it provides a solid foundation, while others argue that high school does not adequately prepare students for college-level understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in high school calculus experiences and outcomes, noting that individual effort and the rigor of the specific high school program can significantly influence preparedness for college calculus.

Who May Find This Useful

High school students considering advanced math courses, educators advising students on course selection, and individuals interested in self-teaching resources for physics and mathematics.

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I am only a freshman in high school,so i know i have a lot of time to think, but i was thinking about studying physics or astro physics in college. However, I am good at math, but not amazing. This year i am taking geometry, as a sophmore i will take algebra 2, as a junior i will take pre-calculus. Here is my real question, should I take AP calculus in high school (there is no regular calculus) or should I wait until college?

Also, is there any books that you would recommend for physics reading, and are there any books you would recommend for math self-teeaching?
 
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You will learn everything in a high-school calculus class that you would in a college calculus class. That said, I found university calculus to be much, much harder than high-school calculus. I never did homework in high-school, slept through class and got an A in calculus BC. I took college calculus so I could start off with an A, and I made a C in calc I! High-school calculus is great, but you will get out of it as much as you put into it. As cliche as it sounds, hard work pays off. This is a lesson you will be much better off to learn in high school than in college.

And personally I think the Feynman lectures on physics are excellent books, but they may be a bit beyond your mathematical level at this point. I'm not sure what would be a good, non-calculus physics book. Perhaps you could ask at the school?
 
I was in your exact situation when I was a freshman, and believe me, you definitely SHOULD take AP Calculus. I slacked off and now I'm a senior in Calculus 1 regular(and breezing through it), and believe me, I completely regret not pushing myself so I could take AP. Even try to take some college calculus at a local community college if at all possible. Anything to introduce yourself to it before college.
 
amolv06 said:
You will learn everything in a high-school calculus class that you would in a college calculus class. That said, I found university calculus to be much, much harder than high-school calculus. I never did homework in high-school, slept through class and got an A in calculus BC. I took college calculus so I could start off with an A, and I made a C in calc I! High-school calculus is great, but you will get out of it as much as you put into it. As cliche as it sounds, hard work pays off. This is a lesson you will be much better off to learn in high school than in college.

My experience was very similar, though I only took Calc AB in high school, and I didn't blame my difficulty in college calculus on high school being too easy so much as my own expectations that I was going to coast through without studying since I had done so well in high school calc. If you don't make my mistake of being overly arrogant/confident that your high school course is going to adequately prepare you for college, then every little bit extra you learn in high school can only help you understand stuff better in college.
 
I took Calc BC in high school and it prepared me well for multivariable calculus. I actually got to skip out of the first two quarters of calculus at my school (which I assume to be not very rigorous, otherwise they wouldn't let so many people skip). Some of my classmates, however, claim that it did not prepare them for college calculus, but they did not score a 5 on the AP exam or put in as much work as I did. I agree with the other responses: you get what you put into it.
 
What I am afraid of though is that the college that I go to will not allow me to retake calc 1
 
I have friends that got 5s(AP) and ended up with Cs and Bs. Really, high school doesn't prep at all. I never even took calculus in high school and I get A's in college. The reason being, high school only requires regurgitation of formulas( i.e take derivative this, take integral that etc). I college you are required to understand the concepts and apply them( proofs, science applications etc.) So the only advantage of taking high school Calc is that you already know the basic formulas whereas someone else who didn't won't. But really, how long does it take to learn a couple of formulas? Five, ten minutes?

hmm good books. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0914098896/?tag=pfamazon01-20 (very hard, wait until senior yr and use this in conjuction with HS calc)


https://www.amazon.com/dp/0130606200/?tag=pfamazon01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471406473/?tag=pfamazon01-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0817636773/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Thats about all that I can think of.
 
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Better to suffer a little now so you could have an easier time in college and hence a better gpa.
 

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