Should popular physics books be banned or come with a disclaimer?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the value and impact of popular physics books, including whether they should be banned or accompanied by disclaimers. Participants explore the implications of these books on public understanding of physics and science, as well as their role in outreach and education.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that popular physics books do not teach rigorous science and suggest they should come with disclaimers indicating their limitations.
  • Others defend the value of popular science books, claiming they can provide a general understanding of complex topics and engage the public's interest in science.
  • Several participants mention specific titles they believe are beneficial, such as "The Fabric of the Cosmos" and "Big Bang," while others express skepticism about the quality of certain popular science literature.
  • There is a discussion about the potential negative consequences of banning popular science books, including a decline in public interest in physics and reduced funding for scientific research.
  • Some participants highlight the distinction between books that simplify concepts for general audiences and those that oversimplify to the point of being misleading.
  • A few participants suggest that popular science can serve as a gateway to deeper understanding and appreciation of scientific concepts, similar to how introductory courses can engage non-specialists.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on whether popular physics books should be banned or if they are beneficial. Some believe these books are valuable outreach tools, while others feel they mislead readers about the nature of scientific understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of distinguishing between different types of popular science books, as well as the varying levels of understanding and interest among readers. There is also mention of the potential for misunderstanding complex scientific ideas without a solid foundation in mathematics or physics.

  • #31
Borek said:
Ah, so it is about physics?

He didn't get it, Borek. Give him a few moments to review...
 
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  • #32
Chi Meson said:
He didn't get it, Borek.

You don't know that. :smile:
 
  • #33
epenguin said:
You don't know that. :smile:

What is this, a dead-pan face-off?
 
  • #34
Chi Meson said:
What is this, a dead-pan face-off?
 
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  • #35
what about " a brief history in time" by Stephen Hawking and "Cosmos" by Carl Sagan
 
  • #36
nobelium102 said:
what about " a brief history in time" by Stephen Hawking and "Cosmos" by Carl Sagan
Why? They promote interest in science. They're not meant to teach.
 
  • #37
Evo said:
Why? They promote interest in science. They're not meant to teach.

They are not meant to teach but don't deserve to be banned
 
  • #38
Banning books of any kind makes me physically ill (not a pun). If people read, 'The Secret' and live by it... so much for those rubes. It's worth it for the one who reads it, throws it away and picks up the Feynman lectures, or something else.
 
  • #39
I would contend that the OP's original statement is in itself intrinsically false. They actually do indeed give the layman a general idea of "what" is being researched/studied. Naturally, they fall short in the department of "how" and "why." However, as others have noted, this was never the purpose. For example, I can know that black holes are a widely acknowledged phenomenon, but I do not need to have an intimate understanding of the math demonstrating this to still contemplate the actual possible instantiation of the theory. Much of the beauty/wonder inspired in the reader of popular science comes from the very fact that the science itself is so mysterious and foreign in nature. It's unlike anything else in their lives, and for this reason, gives a unique pleasure.

If what you purport is that a layman cannot have any fruitful knowledge regarding theoretical physics without an understanding of the math substantiating the claims, then this is similarly foolish. For I could just as easily begin to point at the most mundane of objects and demand that you need a deep understanding of the object's mechanics to understand it's purpose/qualities. For example, I am sure that most people know that a car engine has pistons that, through some vague process, causes the car to move. However, they do not need to know all of the different mechanical bits in between the pistons and wheels to grasp this concept and be able to have some level of fluency in the general qualities of cars.

To categorically reject the worth of popular science seems silly, and hurts yourself than anybody else. The layman is generallmy only tolerant of science when he comprehends some perceived benefit. Since (correct me if I'm wrong) pure theoretical physics yields few practical benefits for the average person, popular science is one of the few things justifying the support of the field in his eyes--it satisfies the philosophic impulse of the "why" in many people. How do you expect anybody to endorse your continued research if you retreat to your ivory tower and disdain those whom make your inquiries possible in the first place?
 

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