Should popular physics books be banned or come with a disclaimer?

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The discussion centers around the value of popular science books in understanding complex topics like theoretical physics. Participants express skepticism about the ability of these books to truly educate readers, with some arguing that they can mislead those who don't have a strong background in the subject. However, others defend popular science literature, asserting that it serves an important role in making science accessible to the general public and sparking interest in scientific concepts. They emphasize that while these books may not provide rigorous education, they can still offer valuable insights and inspire further exploration of the subject. The conversation highlights a tension between the need for accurate scientific understanding and the desire to engage a broader audience in scientific discourse. Overall, the debate reflects differing views on the purpose and impact of popular science writing, with some advocating for its encouragement as a means of outreach and others cautioning against its potential to oversimplify or misrepresent scientific ideas.
  • #31
Borek said:
Ah, so it is about physics?

He didn't get it, Borek. Give him a few moments to review...
 
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  • #32
Chi Meson said:
He didn't get it, Borek.

You don't know that. :smile:
 
  • #33
epenguin said:
You don't know that. :smile:

What is this, a dead-pan face-off?
 
  • #34
Chi Meson said:
What is this, a dead-pan face-off?
 
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  • #35
what about " a brief history in time" by Stephen Hawking and "Cosmos" by Carl Sagan
 
  • #36
nobelium102 said:
what about " a brief history in time" by Stephen Hawking and "Cosmos" by Carl Sagan
Why? They promote interest in science. They're not meant to teach.
 
  • #37
Evo said:
Why? They promote interest in science. They're not meant to teach.

They are not meant to teach but don't deserve to be banned
 
  • #38
Banning books of any kind makes me physically ill (not a pun). If people read, 'The Secret' and live by it... so much for those rubes. It's worth it for the one who reads it, throws it away and picks up the Feynman lectures, or something else.
 
  • #39
I would contend that the OP's original statement is in itself intrinsically false. They actually do indeed give the layman a general idea of "what" is being researched/studied. Naturally, they fall short in the department of "how" and "why." However, as others have noted, this was never the purpose. For example, I can know that black holes are a widely acknowledged phenomenon, but I do not need to have an intimate understanding of the math demonstrating this to still contemplate the actual possible instantiation of the theory. Much of the beauty/wonder inspired in the reader of popular science comes from the very fact that the science itself is so mysterious and foreign in nature. It's unlike anything else in their lives, and for this reason, gives a unique pleasure.

If what you purport is that a layman cannot have any fruitful knowledge regarding theoretical physics without an understanding of the math substantiating the claims, then this is similarly foolish. For I could just as easily begin to point at the most mundane of objects and demand that you need a deep understanding of the object's mechanics to understand it's purpose/qualities. For example, I am sure that most people know that a car engine has pistons that, through some vague process, causes the car to move. However, they do not need to know all of the different mechanical bits in between the pistons and wheels to grasp this concept and be able to have some level of fluency in the general qualities of cars.

To categorically reject the worth of popular science seems silly, and hurts yourself than anybody else. The layman is generallmy only tolerant of science when he comprehends some perceived benefit. Since (correct me if I'm wrong) pure theoretical physics yields few practical benefits for the average person, popular science is one of the few things justifying the support of the field in his eyes--it satisfies the philosophic impulse of the "why" in many people. How do you expect anybody to endorse your continued research if you retreat to your ivory tower and disdain those whom make your inquiries possible in the first place?
 

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