Should the boundary condition have to satisfy dimensional consistency?

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The discussion revolves around whether boundary conditions (B.C.s) in mathematical models should satisfy dimensional consistency. Participants explore examples and implications of dimensionality in boundary conditions, touching on theoretical and practical aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that boundary conditions should be dimensionally consistent.
  • Others point out that many papers and exercises present boundary conditions that appear dimensionally inconsistent, using the example v(r,t) = U*t^p, where U is a constant velocity and p is a positive number.
  • A participant requests a specific example to examine the dimensional consistency of boundary conditions.
  • Another participant suggests that the exercise may be poorly constructed and asks for the complete exercise to better assess the situation.
  • One participant questions whether dimensional consistency affects mathematical analysis, proposing that using scaled units can make expressions appear dimensionally inconsistent while actually being dimensionless.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of viewing differential equations as vector fields, suggesting that initial conditions must match the dimensions of the starting points in phase space.

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Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views on the necessity of dimensional consistency in boundary conditions, with some advocating for it and others providing examples that challenge this notion.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of dimensional inconsistency in boundary conditions and the potential effects on mathematical analysis. The discussion highlights the complexity of defining dimensional consistency in various contexts.

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Should the boundary condition have to satisfy dimensional consistency?
 
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But we see papers and exercise, normally B.C.s look not consistence dimensionally. for example v(r,t)= U*t^p, where U is constant velocity and p is positive no.?
 
SaleemKU said:
But we see papers and exercise, normally B.C.s look not consistence dimensionally. for example v(r,t)= U*t^p, where U is constant velocity and p is positive no.?
Can you cite a specific explicit example for us to examine?
 
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SaleemKU said:
But we see papers and exercise, normally B.C.s look not consistence dimensionally. for example v(r,t)= U*t^p, where U is constant velocity and p is positive no.?

For the purpose of this exercise, does it make a difference to the mathematical analysis if the boundary condition is the dimensionally consistent kUt^p or U(t/t_0)^p rather than sloppy Ut^p?

It is common to use scaled units in order sweep such constants of proportionality under the carpet. The result is that expressions might look dimensionally inconsistent at first glance, but in truth at this stage every quantity is now dimensionless.
 
SaleemKU said:
Should the boundary condition have to satisfy dimensional consistency?
I like to think of differential equations as vector fields, e.g., the predator-prey system,

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The initial conditions determine where you start your flow through such a vector field. Hence, they have the same dimensions such a starting point has in phase space.
 
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