Should we consider negative axis when finding the volume?

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid obtained by rotating a region bounded by the curves \(y^2 = x\) and \(x = 2y\) about the y-axis. Participants explore the implications of considering negative values and the area above and below the x-axis in their calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that they multiplied the integral by 2 due to taking limits from -2 to 2, questioning why the provided answer only considers values above the x-axis.
  • Another participant points out that the curves intersect at (0, 0) and (4, 2), asking for clarification on the integral used.
  • There is a discussion about the region being revolved, with one participant asserting that it is completely above the x-axis except at the origin.
  • A participant expresses confusion about plotting \(x = y^2\) below the x-axis, acknowledging that it ceases to be a function but questioning the validity of using negative values for y.
  • Another participant clarifies that while part of the curve can be plotted below the x-axis, the region of interest for rotation is entirely in the first quadrant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether to consider the negative axis in their calculations. There is no consensus on the necessity of including areas below the x-axis in the volume calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of sketching the region being revolved and the implications of the curves' intersections on the volume calculation. There are unresolved questions regarding the treatment of negative values in the context of the problem.

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Question:
Find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region
bounded by the given curves about the specified line. Sketch the
region, the solid, and a typical disk or washer.
y2 = x; x = 2y; about the y-axis

Solution: http://www.slader.com/textbook/9780538497909-stewart-calculus-early-transcendentals-7th-edition/438/exercises/9/

Now, when I solved the question, I multiplies the entire integral by 2 since the limits I took were from -2 to 2. However, in the answer, they have considered only the values above the x-axis and not below. Why is it so? It doesn't specify in the question that we need to find the area of only that region which lies above the x-axis.
 
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Phys12 said:
Question:
Find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the region
bounded by the given curves about the specified line. Sketch the
region, the solid, and a typical disk or washer.
y2 = x; x = 2y; about the y-axis

Solution: http://www.slader.com/textbook/9780538497909-stewart-calculus-early-transcendentals-7th-edition/438/exercises/9/

Now, when I solved the question, I multiplies the entire integral by 2 since the limits I took were from -2 to 2.
This doesn't make any sense. The two curves intersect at (0, 0) and (4, 2). What does your integral look like?
Phys12 said:
However, in the answer, they have considered only the values above the x-axis and not below. Why is it so? It doesn't specify in the question that we need to find the area of only that region which lies above the x-axis.
The region that is being revolved around the y-axis is completely above the x-axis, except the point (0, 0). Did you sketch the region that is being revolved?
 
Mark44 said:
This doesn't make any sense. The two curves intersect at (0, 0) and (4, 2). What does your integral look like?

The region that is being revolved around the y-axis is completely above the x-axis, except the point (0, 0). Did you sketch the region that is being revolved?
Okay, I got it. Just one question, when we plot x=y^2, why don't we plot it below the x-axis as well? I know that it will cease to be a function, but we can values for x when we take y and -y, right? (That's what got me confused, I plotted y^2=x as y=x^2 but turned 90 degrees. Which made me draw another line below the x-axis as well for some reason-- stupid me!)
 
Phys12 said:
Okay, I got it. Just one question, when we plot x=y^2, why don't we plot it below the x-axis as well?
You do plot a part of it below the x-axis. But, the region that is being revolved is between this curve and the line x = 2y. That region is completely in the first quadrant.
Phys12 said:
I know that it will cease to be a function, but we can values for x when we take y and -y, right? (That's what got me confused, I plotted y^2=x as y=x^2 but turned 90 degrees. Which made me draw another line below the x-axis as well for some reason-- stupid me!)
 
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