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The discussion centers around proving that a certain structure is a vector space, focusing on the properties of vector addition and scalar multiplication. Participants are examining specific axioms such as distributivity and associativity within the context of vector spaces.

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  • Participants discuss the need to prove various vector space axioms, including distributivity and associativity. There are attempts to express these properties mathematically, with some participants questioning their understanding of the definitions and setup.

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Some participants have provided partial guidance on proving the distributive law, while others are exploring their interpretations of the associativity property. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with no explicit consensus reached on the correctness of the approaches taken.

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1. Homework Statement

[PLAIN]http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9001/150674.png

2. Homework Equations



3. The Attempt at a Solution

I think, I need to write: a(x)[b(+)c]

Then prove:

Distributivity law 1: Unsure of
Distributivity law 2: Proving: a(x)[b(+)c] = [a(x)b](+)[a(x)c]
Associativity law: Proving: a(x)[b(+)c] = [a(x)b](+)c
Identity: Unsure of

Is this along the correct lines?[/CODE][/CODE]
 
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hopsonuk said:
1. Homework Statement

[PLAIN]http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9001/150674.png

2. Homework Equations



3. The Attempt at a Solution

I think, I need to write: a(x)[b(+)c]

Then prove:

Distributivity law 1: Unsure of
Distributivity law 2: Proving: a(x)[b(+)c] = [a(x)b](+)[a(x)c]
Associativity law: Proving: a(x)[b(+)c] = [a(x)b](+)c
Identity: Unsure of

Is this along the correct lines?[/CODE][/CODE]

Imageshack is changing some of their policies. Can you move to another host like Photobucket or something along the line? To tell the truth, I cannot see your image. :(
 
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I'll show you how to prove the first distributive law, and then you can take it from there.

Let r,s be in Q and let v= (b_1,...,b_n) be in R^{n}. Then, you need to show that (r+s)v = rv (x) sv.

So, (r+s)v = (r+s)(b_1,...,b_n) = (b_1^{r+s},...,b_n^{r+s})=(b_1^{r},...,b_n^{r}) (x) (b_1^{s},...,b_n^{s}) = rv (x) sv as desired.

Now, just do similar things for each of the axioms.
 
VietDao29 said:
Imageshack is changing some of their policies. Can you move to another host like Photobucket or something along the line? To tell the truth, I cannot see your image. :(

Ok :) - Here is a re-upload:

Wtc.png
 
VietDao29 said:
Imageshack is changing some of their policies. Can you move to another host like Photobucket or something along the line? To tell the truth, I cannot see your image. :(

Is what I have written for distributivity law 2 correct?
 
hopsonuk said:
Is what I have written for distributivity law 2 correct?

Yes.
 
I think my associativity is incorrect.
 
If i write this for associativity: b(x)[c(x)a] = (b x c)(x)a

I cannot get the RHS = LHS..
 
hopsonuk said:
If i write this for associativity: b(x)[c(x)a] = (b x c)(x)a

I cannot get the RHS = LHS..

Hold on a second. Where does the (x) take place? It is defined as a function from RXR^n to R^n. a,b,c are all elements of R^n. You need to check associativity for (+), not (X), that is:
[a(+)b](+)c = a(+)[b(+)c]
 
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Ok, so how do I write this out to check LHS = RHS ?
 

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