Show that for every quaternion z we have

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The discussion revolves around proving a property of quaternions, specifically showing that for any quaternion \( z \), the conjugate \( \overline{z} \) can be expressed in a particular form involving \( z \) and its components. Participants express confusion regarding the notation and the initial steps required to approach the problem.

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  • Participants discuss the representation of a quaternion and its conjugate, questioning how to manipulate the expression involving \( izi - jzj - kzk \). Some seek clarification on the initial steps needed to start the proof.

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There are multiple attempts to engage with the problem, with some participants providing their own methods and partial expansions. However, there is no consensus on a complete solution, and confusion remains regarding the notation and the approach to take.

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Participants note issues with LaTeX formatting and express uncertainty about the implications of the terms involved in the expression. The discussion reflects a common challenge in understanding quaternion algebra and its properties.

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Homework Statement


Show that for every quaternion z we have:
[tex] $ \overline{z} = \frac{1}{2}(-z-izi - jzj - kzk) $<br /> [\tex]That is the question, I just don't know how to begin and the " izi - jzj - kzk " confuses me. I need help on how to start this. Thanks a lot :D[/tex]
 
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I worked it out now.

Let :

z = a + ib + jc + kd

(and z bar = a - ib - jc -kd )

Then just multiply it out.
 
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Homework Statement


Show that for every quaternion z we have:
[tex] \overline{z} = \frac{1}{2}(-z-izi - jzj - kzk) [/tex]


That is the question, I just don't know how to begin and the " izi - jzj - kzk " confuses me. I need help on how to start this. Thanks a lot :D
Fixed your LaTeX. The closing tag should be [ /tex], not [ \tex] (without the spaces). Also, you don't need the $ characters.
 
Having trouble with the same question.

Any tips?
 
This is how i did it :

Let :
[tex] z = a + ib + jc + kd[/tex]
Then sub that into the formula :
[tex] \overline{z} = \frac{1}{2}(-z-izi - jzj - kzk)[/tex]

And just carefully multiply it out...

[tex] -iz = -ia - i^{2}b - ijc - ikd[/tex]

[tex] -iz =-ia + b -kc +jd[/tex]

[tex] -izi = -i^{2}a+ib-kic + jid[/tex]

[tex] -izi=a+ib-jc-kd[/tex]

And repeat for [tex]-jzj[/tex] and [tex]-kzk[/tex] and then sub into the formula.

It should all cancel leaving you with : [tex]a - ib -jc - kd[/tex] which is [tex]\overline{z}[/tex]
 

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