Show that -i is in the Mandelbrot Set

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The discussion revolves around determining whether specific complex numbers, including -i and -1-i, are part of the Mandelbrot set. Participants are exploring the definitions and properties of the Mandelbrot set, as well as the implications of certain mathematical expressions related to complex numbers.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the definition of the Mandelbrot set and what it means for a complex number to belong to it. There are questions about the notation used and the implications of certain mathematical expressions, such as z^2 = 0 and the sequence generated by the formula Zn+1 = Zn^2 + c.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the properties of the Mandelbrot set and questioning the clarity of previous posts. There is an indication that some participants are beginning to understand the concepts involved, while others are still seeking clarification on specific terms and definitions.

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One participant notes a lack of resources on the Mandelbrot set in their math book, which may contribute to the confusion and need for clarification in the discussion.

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show w = -i is in the mandelbrot set
show that -1-i is not in the mandelbrot set
is w= -0.1226 + 07449i in the mandelbrot set, first show that z2 =0

don't know how to do any of them

i tried, -(squareroot-1) ^2 = --1, + squareroot -1
idk
 
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What exactly does it mean for a complex number to be in the Mandelbrot set? You need to have this definition in order to tell whether a give complex number is or isn't in this set.

I don't understand some of the things you have written:
"z2 = 0" Do you mean z2 = 0? If you don't know how to use the LaTeX controls, you can write this like so: z^2 = 0.

"-(squareroot-1) ^2 = --1, + squareroot -1"
I don't understand this at all, but you can write sqrt(-1) to mean the square root of -1 (which is i).
 
For a number to be in the mandelbrot set, it means that it stays within the boundary of that circle thing, and it repeats in a sequence, where a number not in the mandelbrot set doesn't stay in the boundary and doesn't repeat it's sequence

from that formula, Z1 = Z0^2 + Z0 (each time 0 is incremented by 1
 
This is very poorly written. If you want to be a good itexematician you must learn to be precise and clear!

vorcil said:
For a number to be in the mandelbrot set, it means that it stays within the boundary of that circle thing, and it repeats in a sequence, where a number not in the mandelbrot set doesn't stay in the boundary and doesn't repeat it's sequence
You used the word "it" four times without saying what "it" refers to! (And with two different meanings!) You don't say what "that circle thing" is. You don't say what sequence you are talking about and you don't say what "stay in the boundary" means. What you should be saying is that a certain sequence remains bounded. And I can find no requirement that it "doesn't repeat its sequence". If a sequence eventually repeats, it certainly remains bounded.

from that formula
from what formula?
, Z1 = Z0^2 + Z0 (each time 0 is incremented by 1
Okay, this is the"formula" you referred to above and that gives the sequence you are referring to. But as given that implies that Z2= Z12+ Z1 which is incorrect. You want Zn+1= Zn2+ c for a fixed number c and Z0= c. When you ask "is -i in the Mandelbrot set" you are taking c= -i. Then Z_0= -i, Z_1= (-i)^2+ (-i)= -1- i, Z_2= (-1+1)^2+ (-i)= i, Z_3= (i)^2+ (-i)= -1-i again!

It looks to me like that becomes repeating.
 
Sorry, thanks =]
I know how to use the mandelbrot set now(I think),

The mandelbrot set was not in my math book, and i didn't take notes during my lecture because i thought it was in the my mathematics book
 

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