Show that series converges to 1 while another diverges

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The discussion revolves around a series involving non-negative terms \( a_n \) and aims to show that the series \( \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{a_n}{(1+a_1)(1+a_2)...(1+a_n)} \) converges to 1 under the condition that \( \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}{a_n} \) diverges. Participants are exploring the relationship between the series and its partial sums.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of partial sums and the behavior of the series as \( n \) approaches infinity. There are attempts to simplify the expression for the partial sum \( S_n \) and to understand the implications of the denominator diverging. Questions arise regarding how to manipulate the numerator and the significance of the terms going to zero.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and suggestions for simplifying expressions. Some participants are questioning the correctness of the expressions derived for \( S_n \) and exploring how to relate the numerator to the denominator. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance is being offered on how to approach the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are considering the implications of the divergence of the series \( \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}{a_n} \). There is a focus on the behavior of the series as \( n \) increases and the challenge of simplifying the expressions involved.

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Homework Statement




Let [itex]a_n≥ 0[/itex] when [itex]n ≥ 1[/itex].


Show that


[itex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{a_n}{(1+a_1)(1+a_2)...(1+a_n)} = 1[/itex],


when [itex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}{a_n}[/itex] diverges.


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to do something with partial sums because they should approach 1 as n goes to infinity. I looked at the difference and quotient of partial sums for n and n+1 but it didn't go anywhere. I didn't find any use for the fact that the n:th term in the first series should go to zero when n goes to infinity.
 
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The sum of the first n terms has a very simple expression (did you write down the first 2 or 3 terms and simplified?). You just have to show that the denominator of that sum diverges, and that is not hard.
 
mfb said:
The sum of the first n terms has a very simple expression (did you write down the first 2 or 3 terms and simplified?). You just have to show that the denominator of that sum diverges, and that is not hard.

The expression I got for a partial sum would be[itex]S_n = \frac{a_1(1+ a_1)...(1+a_n) +...+ a_{n-1}(1+a_n) + a_n}{(1+a_1)(1+a_2)...(1+a_n)}[/itex].If the whole series converges to 1 then according to my knowledge also [itex]S_n→ 1[/itex] as [itex]n→ ∞[/itex].I don't know how to get this result, even if the denominator of [itex]S_n[/itex] diverged.
 
For S_n, it is tricky to see how to simplify the numerator. Try S_2 or S_3 and see how many factors of the denominator you can include somehow in the numerator.

The divergence of the denominator is the following step, it does not help you at this point.
 
Jaggis said:
[itex]S_n = \frac{a_1(1+ a_1)...(1+a_n) +...+ a_{n-1}(1+a_n) + a_n}{(1+a_1)(1+a_2)...(1+a_n)}[/itex].

That's not quite right. You should not have a1(1+ a1) at the start.
 
haruspex said:
That's not quite right. You should not have a1(1+ a1) at the start.

Yes, you are right. Should be a1(1+ a2).
mfb said:
For S_n, it is tricky to see how to simplify the numerator. Try S_2 or S_3 and see how many factors of the denominator you can include somehow in the numerator.

The divergence of the denominator is the following step, it does not help you at this point.

I'm thinking [itex]\frac{a_1}{1+a_1} + \frac{a_2}{(1+a_1)(1+a_2)} = \frac{(1+a_1)(1+a_2) -1}{(1+a_1)(1+a_2)} = 1-\frac{1}{(1+a_1)(1+a_2)}[/itex].And then the last term goes to zero?
 
If you generalize that to the sum of the first n fractions (which looks exactly as you can expect based on your result): yes.
 
mfb said:
If you generalize that to the sum of the first n fractions (which looks exactly as you can expect based on your result): yes.

OK, thanks for your help. I return with more questions on the subject in case I find myself in trouble with something.
 

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