Show that the energy is conserved in this field/metric

  • Thread starter Thread starter LCSphysicist
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Energy
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around demonstrating energy conservation in a specific field or metric, as presented in Sean Carroll's textbook. The original poster expresses difficulty in finding a starting point and mentions attempts involving derivatives of energy and the application of a specific formula related to momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive energy conservation by exploring derivatives and relevant formulas but finds these approaches unfruitful. They also consider the potential utility of identifying a Killing vector and its relationship to energy conservation.

Discussion Status

Some participants acknowledge the complexity of the problem, with one noting the relevance of a Killing vector or isometry. There is a suggestion to review specific sections of the textbook that may provide insight into the equations governing geodesics and their modifications in the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

The problem is framed within the context of introductory physics homework, although it is recognized as a more advanced topic. The original poster mentions a specific metric and the assumption that the "magnetic charge" is zero, which may influence the discussion.

LCSphysicist
Messages
644
Reaction score
163
Homework Statement
...
Relevant Equations
...
1614783348225.png

I would like it very much if someone could give a hint on how to start this question.

In particular, I tried to find the derivative of energy with respect to time, but that was not enough.
Then I tried to apply the formula p * p = -m², but that also didn't get me anywhere.
These were my two attempts, I imagine there is another way but I haven't been able to find it yet

This is the metric:
1614783555247.png


The "magnetic charge" P is zero, at least i think so.

I thought in another way, try to find any Killing vector and see its relation with the energy, but i am not sure if this is will be helpful
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: PeroK
Physics news on Phys.org
I admire your modesty in putting this under "introductory" physics homework!
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Steve4Physics and Vanadium 50
PeroK said:
I admire your modesty in putting this under "introductory" physics homework!
Moved.
 
Herculi said:
Homework Statement:: ...
View attachment 279056
This problem is from Sean Carroll's textbook.
I thought in another way, try to find any Killing vector and see its relation with the energy, but i am not sure if this is will be helpful.
Yes, there is a Killing vector or isometry that is relevant to this problem.

Review section 3.8 on symmetries and Killing vectors. Equations (3.161), (3.162), (3.167) and (3.168) in this section are for particles following geodesics. How would these equations be modified if the geodesic equation [(3.44) or (3.161)] is replaced by equation (6.122) in the problem statement?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
26
Views
6K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
4K
  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K