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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that a given set of equations involving vectors A and B defines a unique vector X. The equations in question are A * X = |A| and A x X = B, which involve both dot and cross products.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to approach the problem, with some attempting to relate the angle theta between vectors A and X to the magnitude of X. Others discuss the implications of the cross product and its relationship to the vectors involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various mathematical relationships and questioning the uniqueness of the vector X based on their findings. Some have provided insights into the relationships between the magnitudes and angles, while others are still seeking clarity on how these relate to the uniqueness of X.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the notation of vectors and the implications of the relationships derived from the equations. Participants are also grappling with the potential non-uniqueness of the angle derived from the arctan function.

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Homework Statement



Show that, given vectors A and B:

A * X = |a|
and
A x X = B

defines X as a unique vector

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



No idea.

My only conclusion thus far is that the magnitude of x is equal to 1/cos(theta) where theta is the angle it makes with vector A.

Any ideas?
 
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1MileCrash said:

Homework Statement



Show that, given vectors A and B:

A * X = |a|
and
A x X = B

defines X as a unique vector

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



No idea.

My only conclusion thus far is that the magnitude of x is equal to 1/cos(theta) where theta is the angle it makes with vector A.

Any ideas?
It appears that you're being a bit careless with upper/lower case.

If you mean AX = |A|,

then, yes, the magnitude of vector, X, is given by |X| = 1/cos(θ) .

******************

So, it looks like you used CD = |C| |D| cos(θ) .

Now use that the magnitude of the vector product is:
|C × D| = |C| |D| sin(θ)

 
Sorry! Yes, I tried to make all vectors upper case afterwards to prevent confusion with the cross product.

I have also noted the magnitude of the cross product to be |A||X|sin(theta) = |B| but I am not sure how this relates to finding anything out about X, since I already know its magnitude based on theta above, and I know nothing about B other than it being perpendicular to both A and X.
 
1MileCrash said:
Sorry! Yes, I tried to make all vectors upper case afterwards to prevent confusion with the cross product.

I have also noted the magnitude of the cross product to be |A||X|sin(theta) = |B| but I am not sure how this relates to finding anything out about X, since I already know its magnitude based on theta above, and I know nothing about B other than it being perpendicular to both A and X.
And what is |X| ?
 
Ah!

So then that results in
Tan(theta) = |B|/|A|

So it's direction relative to A is
arctan(|B|/|A|)

And it's magnitude is
1/cos(theta)
Which is of course:

1/cos(arctan(|B|/|A|)

Geometrically, I figure that cos(arctan(x)) = (x^2 + 1)^(-1/2)
So 1/cos(arctan(x)) = (x^2 + 1)^(1/2)

Then letting x = |B|/|A|,

The magnitude must be
[itex]\sqrt{\frac{|B|^{2}}{|A|^{2}} + 1}[/itex]

And its direction relative to A must be
[itex]arctan(\frac{|B|}{|A|})[/itex]


Hm... but arctan will give the same thing for some angle theta, and 180 - theta. So it's still not unique.. this must be resolved some way?


Thanks for the help!
 

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