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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that a specific function involving Cartesian products is a bijection. The function in question is defined between the sets (X × Y) × Z and X × (Y × Z). Participants are exploring how to show that this function is injective and surjective.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definitions of injective and surjective functions, with some suggesting starting by writing out these definitions for the specific function. There are attempts to demonstrate injectivity and surjectivity through examples and reasoning about the mappings involved.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the proof, including the suggestion to consider arbitrary elements for a general proof. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary conditions for injectivity and surjectivity, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the depth of their explorations. There is also a noted uncertainty regarding the translation of definitions into the notation used in the function.

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Show that for any sets X, Y , Z, the canonical function:

\varphi : (X × Y) × Z \rightarrow X × (Y × Z)

(\varphi((x, y), z) = (x,(y, z)))

is a bijection.


Solution. We can do this by showing that \varphi is injective and surjective..

I can do this by showing \varphi has an inverse (isomorphism theorem). But I would like to know how to show that a function involving cartesian products is injective/surjective.
 
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mikemhz said:
I can do this by showing \varphi has an inverse (isomorphism theorem). But I would like to know how to show that a function involving cartesian products is injective/surjective.
This should be pretty straightforward. Why not start by writing out the definition of injective and surjective for this particular map, i.e., what is it you would need to show in each case?
 
Would this show that it is injective?

x, a \in X
y, b \in Y
z, c \in Z

\varphi((x,y),z) = \varphi((a,b),c)

\varphi : (x,(y,z)) = (a,(b,c))

x=a, y=b, z=c

End of proof.

How about surjective? To be honest, I'm not 100% what I need to prove in each case. I know that injective is one-to-one (each element in Y has at MOST one element from X mapped to it) and surjective is onto (each element in Y has at LEAST one element from X mapped to it), but I do not know how that translates into the notation.
 
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Sooo..

X = \left\{1, 2\right\}
Y = \left\{A, B\right\}
Z = \left\{I, J\right\}

X × (Y × Z) =
\left\{(1, (A, I)), (1, (A, J)), (1, (B, I)), (1, (B, J)), (2, (A, I)), (2, (A, J)), (2, (B, I)), (2, (B, J))\right\}

Take any element from X × (Y × Z):
e.g. (2, (A, I))
Show that there is an element from (X × Y) × Z which maps using the function:
\varphi((2, A), I) = (2, (A, I))

Therefore \varphi is surjective...? :)
 
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mikemhz said:
Would this show that it is injective?

x, a \in X
y, b \in Y
z, c \in Z

\varphi((x,y),z) = \varphi((a,b),c)

\varphi : (x,(y,z)) = (a,(b,c))

x=a, y=b, z=c

End of proof.
Yes, that's pretty much all there is to it. You may want to include "if and only if" between the statements and write some words to explain the conclusion you are drawing, such as:

\varphi((x,y),z) = \varphi((a,b),c)

if and only if

(x,(y,z)) = (a,(b,c))

if and only if

x=a, y=b, z=c

if and only if

((x,y),z) = ((a,b),c)

Therefore \varphi((x,y),z) = \varphi((a,b),c) implies ((x,y),z) = ((a,b),c). This shows that the function \varphi is injective.
 
mikemhz said:
Therefore \varphi is surjective...? :)
No, this isn't a general proof, because you used specific examples of X, Y, and Z. To write a general proof, start by taking an arbitrary element of X \times (Y \times Z). An arbitrary element is of the form (x,(y,z)), where x \in X, y \in Y, z \in Z. Now you need to find an element of (X \times Y) \times Z which is mapped by \varphi to (x,(y,z)). That's all there is to it.
 

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