Showing that subgroups of G form a lattice

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The problem involves proving that the set of all subgroups of a group \( G \) forms a lattice with respect to the partial order relation of containment. The original poster attempts to demonstrate that for any two subgroups \( H \) and \( K \) of \( G \), there exists a unique supremum and infimum, specifically that the supremum is \( \langle H \cup K \rangle \) and the infimum is \( H \cap K \).

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definitions of supremum and infimum in the context of subgroups and explore the proof of \( \inf(H, K) = H \cap K \) and \( \sup(H, K) = \langle H \cup K \rangle \). There are questions about proving that elements of \( \langle H \cup K \rangle \) are contained in an arbitrary upper bound \( S \) and whether induction can be used to extend results for arbitrary finite products of elements.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights and questioning the assumptions made in the proof attempts. Some have suggested that the properties of subgroups may simplify the proof, while others are exploring specific cases and the implications of group closure.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the definitions and properties of subgroups, as well as the need to clarify the relationship between elements of \( H \), \( K \), and their union in the context of subgroup containment. The discussion reflects a mix of established group theory concepts and the original poster's attempts to navigate the proof requirements.

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Homework Statement


Prove that the set of all subgroups of a group ##G## is a lattice with respect to the partial order relation given by containment.

Note: You need not prove that containment is a partial order relation but you do need to prove that if ##H\leq G## and ##K\leq G## then there is a unique supremum and a unique infimum in the set of subgrups of ##G## for ##H## and ##K## with respect to containment. In particular, prove that the supremum is ##\langle H\cup K \rangle## and the infimum is ##H\cap K##.

2. Relevant information
A supremum for elements ##a,b## of a poset ##(X,\leq)## is an element ##s\in X## such that ##a\leq s, b\leq s## and for any ##s'\in X## satisfying ##a\leq s', b\leq s'## we have ##s\leq s'##.

An infimum for elements ##a,b## of a set ##(X,\leq)## is an element ##i\in X## such that ##i\leq a, i\leq b## and for any ##i'\in X## satisfying ##i'\leq a, i'\leq b## we have ##i'\leq i##.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here is my attempt:
Let ##H,K## be subgroups of ##G##.

First we show that ##\inf (H,K) = H \cap K##. Clearly ##H \cap K \subseteq H## and ##H \cap K \subseteq K##. Now, by set theory, ##H \cap K## is the largest subset contained in both ##H## and ##K## in the sense that if ##S## is a lower bound for ##\{H,K\}## (i.e. ##S \subseteq H## and ##S \subseteq K##), then ##S \subseteq H \cap K##. This satisfies the definition of infimum.

Second, we want to show that ##\sup(H,K) = \langle H \cup K \rangle##. Clearly ##H,K \subseteq \langle H \cup K \rangle##, so##\langle H \cup K \rangle## is an upper bound of ##\{H,K\}##. Now, let ##S## be an arbitrary upper bound for ##\{H,K\}##. We want to show that ##\langle H \cup K \rangle \subseteq S##...... This is where I get stuck. Any ideas?
 
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You need to show that an arbitrary element of ##\langle H\cup K\rangle## is in S. Since S is an upper bound, H and K are both subgroups of S, and hence subsets of S, so the union is a subset too. An arbitrary element of ##\langle H\cup K\rangle## will be the product of some finite number m of elements of the union. If m =1 is the result easy to prove? What if m=2? Can we extend the result to arbitrary ##m\in\mathbb N## by induction?
 
andrewkirk said:
You need to show that an arbitrary element of ##\langle H\cup K\rangle## is in S. Since S is an upper bound, H and K are both subgroups of S, and hence subsets of S, so the union is a subset too. An arbitrary element of ##\langle H\cup K\rangle## will be the product of some finite number m of elements of the union. If m =1 is the result easy to prove? What if m=2? Can we extend the result to arbitrary ##m\in\mathbb N## by induction?
Let ##g \in \langle H\cup K\rangle##. Then if m = 1, ##g## is either equal to some element in H or some element in K. But both H and K are subsets of S, so then ##g \in S##. If m = 2, I feel the only case that's interesting is when we have an element in ##H \setminus K## multiplied by an element in ##K \setminus H##... But this product is not guaranteed to be in ##H,K## or ##H \cup K##, so how can we show that it must be in ##S##?
 
andrewkirk said:
You need to show that an arbitrary element of ##\langle H\cup K\rangle## is in S. Since S is an upper bound, H and K are both subgroups of S, and hence subsets of S, so the union is a subset too. An arbitrary element of ##\langle H\cup K\rangle## will be the product of some finite number m of elements of the union. If m =1 is the result easy to prove? What if m=2? Can we extend the result to arbitrary ##m\in\mathbb N## by induction?
Actually, I might not even need to prove this... It was remarked in class that ##\langle X \rangle## is the smallest subgroup that contains ##X##.

For my proof, would this immediately imply that ##\langle H \cup K \rangle \subseteq S## and so I'm done?
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Let ##g \in \langle H\cup K\rangle##. Then if m = 1, ##g## is either equal to some element in H or some element in K. But both H and K are subsets of S, so then ##g \in S##. If m = 2, I feel the only case that's interesting is when we have an element in ##H \setminus K## multiplied by an element in ##K \setminus H##... But this product is not guaranteed to be in ##H,K## or ##H \cup K##, so how can we show that it must be in ##S##?
Let the elements be ##h\in H## and ##k\in K##. Since ##H,K\subseteq S## we have ##h,k\in S## so ##hk\in S## by group closure axiom applied to S.
 

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