Showing the inequality holds for an interval (?)

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The problem involves demonstrating that the inequality \(\sqrt{2+x}<2+\frac{x}{4}\) holds for all \(x\) in the interval \([-2,0]\). Participants are exploring methods to validate this inequality across the specified range.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster considers using the derivative of the function to find maximum or minimum points. Others suggest finding roots of the equation \(\sqrt{2+x}-(2+\frac{x}{4})=0\) to analyze the behavior of the functions involved.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the implications of the inequality and the behavior of the functions involved. Some have noted that the absence of roots indicates that one function is consistently greater than the other within the interval. There is a recognition that testing specific points in the interval could provide further insight.

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There is a focus on the behavior of the functions at the endpoints of the interval, and participants are questioning how to generalize their findings to all values within \([-2,0]\). The discussion includes considerations of formal statements regarding the inequality.

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Showing the inequality holds for an interval (?)

Homework Statement


Hi, my homework question is:

Show that the inequality
\sqrt{2+x}<2+\frac{x}{4} holds \forallx\in[-2,0]

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I tried using IVT or bisection method, but they are just for existence of a root. How can I show it holds for all x in the interval [-2,0]? Would taking the derivative of the function
\sqrt{2+x}-2-\frac{x}{4} lead me anywhere? Like finding maximum or minimum points? Thanks a lot for any help.
 
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Find the roots of sqrt(2+x)-(2-x/4)=0. The use the roots to sketch a graph. Where your graph is negative is where sqrt(2+x)<(2-x/4), right?
 


Dick said:
Find the roots of sqrt(2+x)-(2-x/4)=0. The use the roots to sketch a graph. Where your graph is negative is where sqrt(2+x)<(2-x/4), right?

Thanks, Dick, but when I try finding roots of \sqrt{2+x}-(2+\frac{x}{4})= 0, what I get is:

2+x = [\frac{x}{4}]2+4+x
x2/16+2=0
but it is not possible. How should I proceed from here? Is there a mistake?
 


life is maths said:
Thanks, Dick, but when I try finding roots of \sqrt{2+x}-(2+\frac{x}{4})= 0, what I get is:

2+x = [\frac{x}{4}]2+4+x
x2/16+2=0
but it is not possible. How should I proceed from here? Is there a mistake?

No, no mistake. If there are no roots or singularities then that difference must always be positive or always be negative since it doesn't cross zero. Which is it?
 


x2/16+2 must always be positive for all intervals of x. If we put the inequality sign instead of 0, the statement is true. Should I express it like: 'Since x2/16+2>0 is true for all x, then it also holds for x\in[-2,0]' ? Is this a formal statement?
 


That's formal enough for me.
 


Thanks a lot, I had thought I should solve for a specific case, but this is also true :)
 


If you want to get fancy, you can say this: Since the inequality is true for all real numbers, it's true a fortiori, for x \in [-2, 0].

Loosely translated, the italicized phrase means "even more strongly."
 


life is maths said:
Thanks a lot, I had thought I should solve for a specific case, but this is also true :)

I think you should. So far you've only shown the curves sqrt(2+x) and 2+x/4 don't cross, since they are never equal. So one is always greater than the other one. To say WHICH one is greater, I would test them at, say, x=(-2).
 
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Dick said:
I think you should. So far you've only shown the curves sqrt(2+x) and 2+x/4 don't cross, since they are never equal. So one is always greater than the other one. To say WHICH one is greater, I would test them at, say, x=(-2).

Thanks, Dick. If I take x= -2, then I get \sqrt{-2+2}< 2+ \frac{(-2)}{4}, which is 0 < \frac{3}{2}. It also holds for 0, then \sqrt{2+x} < 2+\frac{x}{4} in the interval [-2,0]. Now how should I proceed? How can I show this holds for every number in this interval?
I'm a bit confused :confused:
 
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life is maths said:
Thanks, Dick. If I take x= -2, then I get \sqrt{-2+2}< 2+ \frac{(-2)}{4}, which is 0 < \frac{3}{2}. It also holds for 0, then \sqrt{2+x} < 2+\frac{x}{4} in the interval [-2,0]. Now how should I proceed? How can I show this holds for every number in this interval?
I'm a bit confused :confused:

Because you showed the graphs don't cross because there are no values where they are equal. So sqrt(x+1) is ALWAYS greater than 2+x/4 for any x>=(-2). It's true on [-2.infinity). So it must also be true on [-2,0].
 
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Wow, drawing their graphs shows everything clearly. sqrt(2+x) is always smaller than 2+x/4. Hence, this is true for every interval that they are defined (x>=-2).

Thanks for your time and effort, Dick and Mark :) You were a great help.
 

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