Showing Uniqueness of Elements of a Vector Space

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The discussion revolves around the uniqueness of elements in a vector space, specifically addressing the conditions under which a vector can be expressed as a sum of two other vectors. Additionally, participants explore the properties of polynomial sets in relation to vector space axioms.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the uniqueness of a vector expressed as a sum of two others, with attempts to justify operations using vector space axioms. Questions arise regarding the existence of such vectors and the implications of polynomial degrees on vector space properties.

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Some participants have provided insights into the justification of operations within vector spaces and the need to clarify definitions. There is an ongoing exploration of the properties of polynomials and their classification as vector spaces, with no explicit consensus reached on the interpretations presented.

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Participants question the definitions and axioms related to vector spaces, particularly concerning the existence of zero vectors and the implications of polynomial degrees. The discussion reflects a mix of assumptions and interpretations that remain to be clarified.

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The Attempt at a Solution

We have that X = A + B. To show that X is unique, let two such sums be denoted by X1 X2 such that X1X2. We write,

X1 = A + B
X2 = A + B

The equations imply,

X1 - A - B = 0
X2 - A - B = 0

Which imply,

X1 - A - B = X2 - A - B. If we add vectors to both sides,

X1 - A - B + A + B = X2 - A - B + A + B

X1 + 0 + 0 = X2 + 0 + 0
X1 = X2, which contradicts our assertion that X1X2. This shows that such an X is unique.
 
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don't you mean A+X=B?
 
and though on the right track 3 points,
- i think you need to justify the minus operation by invoking the existence of an additive inverse
- eqauting to zero is an unecessary step, i would start from B=B in this case
- you need to show both existence and uniqueness
 
Yeah, you're totally right. I just typed X =A + B by accident. As for proving the existence of such an X, how do I begin that? I think proving uniqueness should be, with some adjustment, what I have in #1.
 
just find a vector that exists that satisfies the requirement
A+X=B
A+X+(-A)=B+(-A)
X+A+(-A)=B+(-A)
X+0=B+(-A)
X=B+(-A)

So somewhat obviously B+(-A) does the job
 
its a little mechanical, but each one of the above operations is justified by a vector space axiom
 
Okay, that's pretty clear. Thanks!

Another question I have is why the set of polynomials of degree = 2 is not a vector space. It isn't obvious to me which axiom is not being satisfied here. Could you recommend an axiom to examine more closely?
 
does it contain the zero vector?
 
So I understood that degree = 2 indicated polynomials of the form [itex]a_0 + a_1 x +a_2 x^2[/itex] if [itex]a_0[/itex],[itex]a_1[/itex],[itex]a_2 = 0[/itex], then certainly the entire polynomial goes to zero.

I doubt, somehow, that this is the conclusion I am supposed to arrive at. Does degree = 2 indicate rather polynomials of the form [itex]a_2 x^2[/itex]? But even if this is so, I still think I could let the coefficient be zero to get a zero vector.

What does "degree = 2" actually mean?
 
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I would interpret degree=2 as [itex]a_2\neq0[/itex]..

And degree<=2 as putting no constraints on a_0,a_1,a_2... but that's just my interpretation

Its also probably biased by that I'm pretty sure all polynomials with degree<=2 is a vector space
 
  • #11
Also the sum of the two second degree polynomials, [itex]1+ x- x^2[/itex] and [itex]2- 2x+ x^2[/itex], is [itex]3- x[/itex] which is not a second degree polynomial.

(The set of all polynomials of degree less than or equal to is a vector space.)
 

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