Significant Figures Homework: Converting Time from Min to Hrs

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the proper use of significant figures (SF) when converting time from minutes to hours. Participants are exploring how to maintain appropriate precision in their calculations and the implications of uncertainties in measurements.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand how to apply significant figures in the context of unit conversion, particularly when dealing with uncertainties. There are questions about how the precision of the conversion factor affects the final answer and how to represent uncertainties correctly.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on maintaining the same number of decimal places for the answer as the uncertainty. There is an ongoing exploration of how to handle different levels of precision when plotting data and calculating derived quantities.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of using defined conversion factors, which are regarded as having infinite precision, and how this interacts with measured values that have specific significant figures. There is also mention of potential complications when integrating different types of data in graphical representations.

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Homework Statement


I am starting to confuse myself with the proper use of SF. I am to convert time from minutes to hours, keeping in mind proper SF

Homework Equations


conversion factor: 1 min = 1/60 hr

The Attempt at a Solution



The timing error is +/- 0.2 (1SF) = 0.003hr (1SF)

20.0 min (3 SF) = 0.333 hr (3 SF), but the conversion factor has 1 SF? would my answer be 0.3 hr? I'm confused because now I have varying decimal places and when I say 0.3 +/- 0.003 hr doesn't seem corect at all because when adding or subtracting I would drop the 0.003 therefore never being relevant?

Please help.
 
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Conversion factors that are defined rather than measured are taken to have infinite precision. Thus the constant "60" in the conversion of minutes to hours or vice versa is exact.
 
Ok, so if I am converting 20.0 min using the "infinite" 60, the answer would reduce to the 3SF from the minute value?
 
Jam51 said:

Homework Statement


I am starting to confuse myself with the proper use of SF. I am to convert time from minutes to hours, keeping in mind proper SF

Homework Equations


conversion factor: 1 min = 1/60 hr

The Attempt at a Solution



The timing error is +/- 0.2 (1SF) = 0.003hr (1SF)

20.0 min (3 SF) = 0.333 hr (3 SF), but the conversion factor has 1 SF? would my answer be 0.3 hr? I'm confused because now I have varying decimal places and when I say 0.3 +/- 0.003 hr doesn't seem corect at all because when adding or subtracting I would drop the 0.003 therefore never being relevant?

Please help.

As a general rule, you need to quote your answer to the same number of decimal places as your uncertainty.

If you have an uncertainty of 0.55 on 10, I would expect to see ##x = (\mathrm{10.00} \pm \mathrm{0.55}) \mathrm{units}##
 
Right. Just so I am understanding that correctly.

In minutes my uncertainty is +/- 0.2, therefore on 20.0 minutes, it would remain as 20.0 +/- 0.2 min (both have the same amount of decimal places)
In hours the uncertainty would be +/- 0.003, where 20.0 min = 0.333 hr, would be 0.333 +/- 0.003 hr.

Now what if distance comes to play and it was only one decimal place? Am I still ok to leave the above as 3 decimal places if i intend to plot d v t on a graph?
 
Jam51 said:
Now what if distance comes to play and it was only one decimal place? Am I still ok to leave the above as 3 decimal places if i intend to plot d v t on a graph?
As long as the different data is kept separate they keep their own significant figures and accuracy. So in a plot where the data are on separate axes they have their separate uncertainties and significant figures. If you use the data to calculate the slope of the resulting curve or the area under the curve, then you are "mixing" the data and you need to heed the significant figure rules for any results.
 
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