Similar to Collatz Problem (Please Read)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the exploration of functions similar to the Collatz conjecture, specifically those that lead to the numbers 2, 3, or 4 instead of 1. Participants are engaged in a dialogue about the originality of these functions and the process of sharing their findings.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces the Collatz conjecture and poses a question about discovering functions that lead to 2, 3, or 4.
  • Another participant encourages posting the findings publicly to gain recognition.
  • Concerns are expressed about whether the original poster is the first to discover these functions and how to verify this.
  • Participants suggest searching online for similar equations and provide advice on how to publish findings in a mathematical journal.
  • There are worries about security and the potential for others to take credit for the discoveries, leading to questions about how to share information safely.
  • One participant explains the concept of signing a post with a real name for credibility and timestamping purposes.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the originality of the findings, suggesting that similar work may have already been done.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the originality of the proposed functions and whether they have been previously discovered. There is no consensus on the existence of similar functions or the best way to share the findings.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of verifying originality through research and the limitations of public forums for privacy. Concerns about security and credit for discoveries are highlighted, along with the challenges of navigating academic publishing.

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Of course everyone seem to be very knowledgeable still i would like to show them
Collatz conjecture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture

its a function =
3n+1 if n odd
n/2 if n even
right
it always ends in 1
What ever you start from

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MY QUESTION is
Have anyone found out a function like collatz problem which always ends up in 2 or 3 or 4 instead of one
i am talking about three different Functions

I think i discovered all three of them and some associated properties
but i am not sure that i am the first person or not
So i am asking for help here to know that did anyone else already did it or not

If you did not understand my question post here and i will try to make you understand

PS i am a student
 
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Since you discovered them ,please post there and announce to the world this great discovery
 
But i don't know that i am the first one to discover them or someone else has already done them ?
How do i know that ?

And where do you want me to post ?

Please Help

Who do i contact to get credit of this discovery ?

I am from INDIA
 
NightFury said:
But i don't know that i am the first one to discover them or someone else has already done them ?
How do i know that ?

And where do you want me to post ?

Please Help

Who do i contact to get credit of this discovery ?

I am from INDIA

Search google for similar equations to Collatz. You can either post right here or write a paper and send it to a math journal if you think your results are original. If you post here, you can always sign the post with your real name.
 
yes post here... and may be put your real name to it...
 
epsi00 said:
Search google for similar equations to Collatz. You can either post right here or write a paper and send it to a math journal if you think your results are original. If you post here, you can always sign the post with your real name.

I searched in Google , Wolfram , and Many Online Mathematical Resources
I did not found any thing like them and

and about posting , i am worried about security and someone else taking credit ,
So i wanted to first be sure about this thing
and it is not a Private forum its posts could be scene even if you don't register here

What is signing a post ? i don't know about it !

and suggest the name of a journal to which i can send it
i live in INDIA

Thanks for your reply

About Posting Is there any where i can post so that Only IssacNewton and epsi00 can see and discuss but you guys have to promise not to make that public
 
If you google "mathematical journals", I am sure google will oblige and return 1000's of entries for you to look at and decide which journal is the lucky one you will be sending your groundbreaking research to.

And no, this being a public forum, you can't prevent people from reading your posts. If you want privacy, you only have two options:
1- don't post in a forum
2- send people a write up of your research in a private message ( please don't send me your research, I have been known to steal people's research in the past )

Lastly, signing your name is just that, adding your real name at the end of your past, not your pseudo.
I like to call myself John Smith so here's a simple way for me to sign this post

John Smith
 
The reason it was suggested to place the paper here with your signature, is it is time stamped and with signature.
It then is proof if new that you did it and when.
without seeing what you ae saying, it is hard to say if it has been done before. I suspect it has.
 

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