Similarities in College Physics 1301 and University Physics 2425

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the similarities and differences between College Physics 1301 (trigonometry-based) and University Physics 2425 (calculus-based). Participants explore the content coverage, difficulty level, and the impact of taking calculus concurrently.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how similar the material will be between the two courses, specifically mentioning topics like kinematics, vectors, and conservation laws.
  • Another participant suggests that course descriptions will clarify the differences and emphasizes the importance of the calculus-based course for a physics degree.
  • A participant shares their experience, indicating that having taken a trigonometry-based course may ease the transition to a calculus-based course due to overlapping subject matter, albeit at different levels of sophistication.
  • One reply notes that while the calculus-based course may cover similar topics, the mathematical rigor will increase, particularly in understanding limits and derivatives, although it may still rely heavily on trigonometry.
  • There is a suggestion to check the university's course materials to better understand the content and prepare in advance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is significant overlap in content between the two courses, but there is no consensus on the extent of the differences in difficulty or the specific mathematical requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence regarding the transition from trigonometry-based to calculus-based physics, with some noting that the calculus may be used more intuitively rather than rigorously. The discussion does not resolve the potential challenges faced by students transitioning between these course types.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering a transition from trigonometry-based to calculus-based physics courses, particularly those pursuing a degree in physics or related fields.

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I'm completing College (Trig-based) Physics 1301 this week and enrolled in University (Calculus-based) Physics this January. I'm also taking Calculus 1 in parallel.

My question is: How similar / different are the two classes, besides 2425 being Calculus based ?
Will 2425 (University Physics 1) be covering mostly the same material such as kinematics, vectors, conservation laws, collisions, torque & equilibrium, rotational kinematics, etc...just a little tougher by adding another dimension and requiring Cal ?
Will I be ahead of the game a little or will they be covering all new material and will it be a lot tougher ?
I'm carrying an A (95) in Pre-cal.

I'm a 55 year old going back to school for a degree in Physics, transferring from Community college to University this Spring.
Thanks for any insight.
 
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Course numbers are not universal.

The course description will answer your question, but if you are planning on a physics degree, you want the calculus-based one.
 
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L1ght said:
I'm a 55 year old going back to school for a degree in Physics
What do you intend to do with this degree?

I agree with V50 that the calculus-based course is the one that will "count". All the other courses in a physics bachelor's degree assume that you've had a calculus-based intro course, and of course a sequence of calculus courses. Having taken a trig-based physics course may well make the calculus-based course a bit easier, because the general subject matter overlaps a lot, although at different levels of sophistication. I did trig-based physics in high school, then calculus-based physics in my freshman year of college.
 
L1ght said:
I'm completing College (Trig-based) Physics 1301 this week and enrolled in University (Calculus-based) Physics this January. I'm also taking Calculus 1 in parallel.

My question is: How similar / different are the two classes, besides 2425 being Calculus based ?
Will 2425 (University Physics 1) be covering mostly the same material such as kinematics, vectors, conservation laws, collisions, torque & equilibrium, rotational kinematics, etc...just a little tougher by adding another dimension and requiring Cal ?
Will I be ahead of the game a little or will they be covering all new material and will it be a lot tougher ?
I'm carrying an A (95) in Pre-cal.

I'm a 55 year old going back to school for a degree in Physics, transferring from Community college to University this Spring.
Thanks for any insight.
its pretty much the same. except for a few new things. ie., mostly the derivations, if they are done, will require things like understanding the definition of a limit, definition of derivative, some simple derivatives/integrals. The calculus is used intuitively more than anything, a bit superficial. The only exception, is if this is an honors based course. The main math used will still be trigonometry.

You can always see what book the university is using by looking the course on the online bookstore. Buy it early, and have a look at it.
 

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