Simple but complete mathematical methods book?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for a mathematical methods book suitable for undergraduate physics students. Participants explore various texts, their completeness, and the specific mathematical topics they cover, such as group theory and Hilbert spaces.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recommend "Boas" as a good resource for undergraduate physics, though opinions vary on its completeness.
  • One participant notes that "Boas" does not cover group theory, which may be a significant omission depending on the curriculum.
  • Another participant suggests "Arfken" for more advanced topics, indicating it may be better used alongside other texts.
  • There is a mention of "Riley, Hobson, Bence" as a comprehensive resource that might cover the necessary material for a four-year degree.
  • Some participants express a desire for a book that covers a wide scope of topics without going too deep into advanced mathematics.
  • Questions arise regarding whether "Riley, Hobson, Bence" includes content on Hilbert spaces, with one participant confirming that it does address relevant aspects in Chapter 17.
  • Concerns are raised about the preference for American textbooks in universities, which may influence the selection of recommended materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single recommended book, as there are multiple competing views on what constitutes a "complete" mathematical methods text for undergraduates. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best choice of textbook.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the definition of "complete" may vary based on different educational curricula around the world, which could affect the recommendations made.

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Can anyone recommand a simple but complete mathematical methods book written especially for undergrad physics students?
 
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Arfkin isn't too bad at the advanced UG/Grad level.
 
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pivoxa15 said:
Complete as in complete for undergrads.
I knew that. But undergrads in different schools around the world may be exposed to a little more or a little less of the "average curriculum". By now you may know that Boas does not cover group theory, for example.

Another book that I have heard about, but never read, is by Morse and Feshbach.
 
So a complete one would include group theory. I like to be on the safe side. However the depth of the maths shouldn't be too deep. So wide scope but not deep.
 
Take a look at Riley, Hobson, Bence - Mathematical Methods

I'd say this has pretty much everything you'll cover in a 4 year degree.
Boas would also suit, but i'd say it's a bit more cookbookish than the likes of R, H, B... Arfken is smashin' but better used in conjunction with a more elaborate book.. well i find that at the early years of my undergrad degree
 
I've had a look at Boas and was impressed. Its nice layout and font complements it even more. However for higher stuff like hilbert spaces, one will need Arfken. Does R,H,B have stuff on hilbert spaces? I think not. Maybe a combintation of Boas and Arfken would form a complete mathematical book I am after. Although it does have Representation theory and group theory.
 
pivoxa15 said:
Does R,H,B have stuff on hilbert spaces?
Chapter 17, "Eigenfunction methods for differential equations," covers the aspects of Hilbert spaces that are relevant to undergrad physics. I personally haven't used Riley, Hobson & Bence all that much, but I think that is because American universities tend to favor textbooks written by American authors.
 

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