Simple Concentration Stoic Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem concerning the calculation of the mass of aluminum nitrate needed to achieve a specific nitrate concentration in a solution. Participants explore the relationships between moles, molar mass, and concentration in the context of this chemistry problem.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the required moles of nitrate based on the desired concentration and volume, arriving at 0.19485 moles.
  • Another participant identifies the chemical formula for aluminum nitrate as Al(NO3)3 and suggests that this might help resolve the issue.
  • Multiple participants discuss the molar mass of aluminum nitrate, with values mentioned including 186 g/mol and 213 g/mol, indicating confusion over the correct calculation.
  • There is a clarification that for every mole of Al(NO3)3, three moles of nitrate ions are produced, which is relevant to the concentration calculation.
  • One participant expresses realization about using the mole-mole ratio from the chemical formula, indicating a learning moment in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct molar mass of aluminum nitrate and the number of moles needed, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved calculations regarding the molar mass of aluminum nitrate and the interpretation of nitrate concentration, which may affect the conclusions drawn by participants.

Lori

Homework Statement



What mass of aluminum nitrate should be dissolved in 225 ml of water to make a solute with a total nitrate concentration of 0.866 M ?

Homework Equations



M = n/L

The Attempt at a Solution


So, i keep getting the wrong answer. THe answer is suppose to be 13.8 g but i get a different number
:

.226 L * (0.866 mols/L) = 0.19485 mols needed

Nitrate molar mass is just 16*3 + 14 + 26.98= 88.98 g/mol

0.19485 * 62 = 17.33 grams of Aluminum nitrate
 
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The chemical formula for aluminum nitrate is ## Al (NO_3)_3 ##. I think that might solve your problem.
 
Charles Link said:
The chemical formula for aluminum nitrate is ## Al (NO_3)_3 ##. I think that might solve your problem.

I get that the molar mass for (NO3)3 is 186 but i still get 40 g of Al(NO3)3
 
Lori said:
I get that the molar mass for (NO3)3 is 186 but i still get 40 g of Al(NO3)3
The molar mass of ## Al (NO_3)_3 ## is 213. Meanwhile, how many moles do you need? With ## (NO3)_3 ## you don't need .195 moles.
 
isnt the nitrate concentration referring to just nitrate?
 
Lori said:
isnt the nitrate concentration referring to just nitrate?
But for every mole of ## Al(NO_3)_3 ## you get 3 moles of ## (NO_3)^- ## in the solution. You do need .195 moles of ## (NO_3)^- ##. That part you got correct.
 
Charles Link said:
The molar mass of ## Al (NO_3)_3 ## is 213. Meanwhile, how many moles do you need? With ## (NO3)_3 ## you don't need .195 moles.
Oh my goodness! I keep forgetting you can just get mole-mole ratio from the molecule itself... thanks!
I spent like so long on this problem ._.
 
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