Simple dynamics problem, I can't seem to get the answer to

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The problem involves a car traveling around a circular track with a radius of 300m, starting with an initial velocity of 5m/s and experiencing an increasing acceleration. The task is to determine the magnitudes of velocity and acceleration after the car has traveled one-third of the way around the track.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive expressions for velocity and distance traveled over time, leading to a cubic equation. Some participants question the solvability of the cubic equation and discuss methods for finding roots, including the Newton-Raphson method.

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Participants acknowledge that a real solution exists for the cubic equation presented. There is an exchange about the challenges of solving cubic equations without computational tools, with some guidance offered regarding potential methods.

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Participants note the complexity of solving cubic equations by hand and the limitations of standard calculators in handling such problems. The discussion reflects on the constraints of the homework context and the reliance on technology for solutions.

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A car travels around a circular track having a radius of 300m such that when it is at point A, it has a velocity f 5m/s, which is increasing at the rate of \dot{v}=0.06t m/s^2. Determine the magnitudes of the velocity and acceleration when it has traveled one-third the way around the track

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n,t-coordinate system

a=\sqrt{a_t^2+a_n^2}

a_n= \frac{v^2}{r}

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the radius r=300m, the total distance the car will travel is 2 \pi r= 600\pi m

So I want to find v and a when the distance = 200pi

Now at A, \dot{v}=a_t=0.06t
Initially at A,t=0 and v=5

so

\int^{v} _{5} = \int^{t} _{0} 0.06t dt
v=5+0.03t^2

Thus
\int ^{s} _{0}= \int ^{t} _{0} (5+0.03t^2) dt

s=5t+0.01t^3

When s=200\pi

200\pi=5t+0.01t^3

Which I do not know how to solve since there is no rational root.

Was I going on the correct track?
 
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rock.freak667 said:
200\pi=5t+0.01t^3

Which I do not know how to solve since there is no rational root.
There is a real solution. (Yes, you're on the right track.)
 
Doc Al said:
There is a real solution. (Yes, you're on the right track.)

Well I had to use an online calculator to get t=35.579993691668676.

But my normal calculator doesn't have a function for cubic equations. How would I normally solve it without a computer? I know the rational root theorem but if I were to use the Newton-raphson method, I'd spend a lot of time finding a starting point and doing the iteration.
 
Solving a general cubic equation by hand is a bear. There's an analytic solution, but I wouldn't dare attempt it from memory. (I too have been spoiled by fancy calculators.) Here's one version: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CubicFormula.html"
 
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