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JustDerek said:Wouldn't that make c=0 at the start point?
##c = d_0 = 0## from the way the problem is set up.
The problem involves a car traveling around a circular track with a specified radius and initial velocity. The car's velocity is said to increase at a variable rate, and the task is to determine the magnitude of both its velocity and acceleration after traveling a certain distance along the track.
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JustDerek said:Wouldn't that make c=0 at the start point?
So I make ##a=0 s=524 and V_0=5## and try to solve t for this?PeroK said:##c = d_0 = 0## from the way the problem is set up.
JustDerek said:So I make ##a=0 s=524 and V_0=5## and try to solve t for this?
Which is get ##524=0.01t^3+5t## which believe it or not I've had worked out for two days. What I don't get is how to isolate t from thisPeroK said:Setting ##a = 0## was just a way to see that your formula was wrong. If you integrate correctly you get:
##d = \frac{at^3}{6} + v_0t##
Now, you have to put some numbers in ##a = 0.06## and ##v_0 = 5## and use whatever numerical method you prefer to solve for ##t##.
JustDerek said:Which is get ##524=0.01t^3+5t## which believe it or not I've had worked out for two days. What I don't get is how to isolate t from this
Never done that before but I'll look into it. Won't that give multiple values for t?PeroK said:I would just do it numerically. There is a way for solving cubic equations. Try googling if you interested. But, I'd just hit it with a spreadsheet.
JustDerek said:Never done that before but I'll look into it. Won't that give multiple values for t?
Thanks for all your help. I'll see what I can do from here. You've been a saint I'd give you +100 likes if I couldPeroK said:I know almost nothing about numerical methods. There is something called the Newton-Rhapson method, which you could codify in a program or spreadsheet. But, you know, all you have to do is check increasing values of ##t## until you go past the point you want, then refine the increments until you've narrowed it down to the required number of decimal places.
It's going to be somewhere between 30-40 seconds I guess.
You should be able to see analytically that there is only one real solution:your cubic function is monotonic.
One would do!JustDerek said:Thanks for all your help. I'll see what I can do from here. You've been a saint I'd give you +100 likes if I could
JustDerek said:When it is at point A then VA=5m/s which increases at a rate of a=(0.06t)m/s2.
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