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The problem involves a U-tube filled with two liquids of different densities, ρ and 2ρ, and examines the height difference of the liquids when the tube is accelerated. The original poster seeks to determine the height difference before acceleration, given that the height difference after acceleration is zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the pressure at the interface of the two liquids and the application of Newton's second law. There are attempts to relate the heights of the liquids before and after acceleration, and questions about the angle of the fluid surface in a stationary scenario are raised.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Hints and questions have been offered to guide thinking about the fluid dynamics involved, particularly regarding the angle of the fluid surface and the implications of acceleration.

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Participants are considering the implications of the U-tube's acceleration and the resulting fluid behavior, while also addressing assumptions about the initial conditions and the nature of the fluid surfaces.

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Homework Statement



problem states that ... there is a u tube and filled with liquid of densities ρ and 2ρ. the base length of the tube is 'l'. now it is accelerated towards right with accl.=a. if the HEIGHT DIFFERENCE AFTER ACCELERATING THE SYSTEM IS '0'. then what was the height difference before acceleration??

Homework Equations



P=ρgh; F=ma ; F=(ρ.V)a ;

The Attempt at a Solution


i tried to find pressure at bottom most level at interface of the two liquids, then the net force, then applied Newtons 2nd law, but could'nt get the solution...
 
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hi phyeinstein_c! :smile:

hint: what will be the angle of the surface of the fluid (in either half of the 'U') ? :wink:
 
lets see...if the u tube is moving towards right the major driving force is on the left side of the tube. since the heights are equal the 2p liquid is in the left tube .

first find relations between height h1 and h2 in the two sides of tube when at rest...then find height h when accelerated.. then keeping volume constant use h1 + h2 = 2h
 
tiny-tim said:
hi phyeinstein_c! :smile:

hint: what will be the angle of the surface of the fluid (in either half of the 'U') ? :wink:
they're not at angle. initially they are at a height difference. that's it is wat is given.
 
i know, i mean, suppose there was only one pipe (or a jar or vase), what would be the angle of the water surface? :wink:
 
it wud be horizontal obviously
 
nope! :wink:
 
why...?
 
suppose the water was ice, and the surface was at an angle, and a drop of water was on the surface …

what angle would the surface have to be for the drop of water to stay where it is? :wink:
 
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<=45 i guess
 
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phyeinstein_c said:
<=45 i guess

how do you get that? :confused:
 
  • #12
:P just guessing... mgsinθ is equal to the friction acting.. of surface tension watever... unless u describe the surface of ice to be smooth...
 
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phyeinstein_c said:
… unless u describe the surface of ice to be smooth...

yes, of course it's smooth! :rolleyes:
 
  • #14
ok... then it can't stay where it is..
 
  • #15
why not?

(if the block of ice is accelerating)
 
  • #16
oh yeah that's there... true.. then we can find the component of ma and normal reaction in horizontal direction and solve..
 

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