Is This Ohm's Law Application Correct for an OP-AMP Circuit?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of Ohm's Law in the context of an operational amplifier (OP-AMP) circuit. Participants are examining the correctness of a specific equation related to the circuit, which includes components that may represent either a capacitor or a resistor, depending on the interpretation of the circuit diagram.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the correctness of their equation for the OP-AMP circuit, specifically in the context of the upper loop connecting the inverting input to the output.
  • Another participant suggests that the rectangular component in the circuit might represent a 1 F capacitor, but expresses uncertainty about this interpretation.
  • A different participant struggles with understanding the circuit terminology and suggests that the rectangular component could be a resistor with a value of 1/S, questioning the meaning of 'S'.
  • It is noted that 'S' refers to the Laplace domain frequency variable, with explanations provided about the impedances of reactive components in this domain.
  • One participant mentions their unfamiliarity with Laplace transformations but acknowledges learning something new from the discussion.
  • There is a confirmation from one participant that the rectangular component was indeed meant to represent a capacitor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the circuit components, particularly regarding whether the rectangular component is a capacitor or a resistor. There is no consensus on the correctness of the equation presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the need for clarity in circuit diagrams and component definitions, as well as the potential for confusion when interpreting the roles of different components in the context of OP-AMP applications.

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Homework Statement


Hi,

So I'm just curious whether or not the following statement is correct for the circuit shown. It's part of a bigger problem involving OP-AMPS, the part of the circuit shown is the upper loop connecting from the inverting to the output.

I was just having some doubts in my mind and wanted to confirm whether or not the equation i have written is correct.

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Homework Equations


Ohms Law. V = IR.

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For the given component values it looks okay. Presumably the rectangular component is meant to represent a 1 F capacitor?
 
CoolDude420 said:

Homework Statement


Hi,

So I'm just curious whether or not the following statement is correct for the circuit shown. It's part of a bigger problem involving OP-AMPS, the part of the circuit shown is the upper loop connecting from the inverting to the output.

I was just having some doubts in my mind and wanted to confirm whether or not the equation i have written is correct.

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Homework Equations


Ohms Law. V = IR.

The Attempt at a Solution



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Interestingly gneill seems to understand your circuit and terminology, but I am struggling with it. However, any way I look at it I can't see the rectangular component as being a capacitor unless the OP AMP in question is a differentiating OP AMP and even then I would need to see a feedback resistor which is a key part of the the various voltage components. Since we are doing V = IR (or in this case I = V/R) I cannot understand this to be differentiating problem, so I would read that the rectangular component is a resistor with a value of 1/S but I am not able to determine what 'S' signifies. Also, if this is an integrating OP AMP, then there must be two resistor, R input and R feedback.
I may be just having a dumb day, bit I would like to see a full circuit, with the components correctly defined before I could comment on the correctness of the value terminology used in the equation.
 
Quandry said:
...so I would read that the rectangular component is a resistor with a value of 1/S but I am not able to determine what 'S' signifies.
The 's' is the Laplace domain "frequency" variable/operator (yes, it's both). Reactive components such as inductors and capacitors have impedances in the Laplace domain of the forms:

Inductance L: sL
Capacitance C: 1/(sC)

Laplace transforms are a very handy way to write and solve differential equations using simple algebra.
 
It is a sad day when you don't learn something new:smile: Although vaguely aware of Laplace transformations I have never used them.
For a differentiating OP AMP I would use the formula Iinput = C x dVinput/dt
 
gneill said:
For the given component values it looks okay. Presumably the rectangular component is meant to represent a 1 F capacitor?

Yes! That's exactly what it was meant to be. Thank you
 

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