Simple Harmonic Motion and amplitude help

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The discussion revolves around a problem in simple harmonic motion involving a particle with a mass of 0.50 kg executing linear harmonic motion. The problem provides specific conditions at a given time and asks for the determination of the spring constant, amplitude, and displacement as a function of time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between displacement, velocity, and phase angle in harmonic motion. There is confusion regarding the phase angle and its implications for calculating amplitude. Some suggest using conservation of energy to find the amplitude, while others discuss methods for determining the phase angle from displacement and velocity equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various approaches to understanding the problem, with some participants providing insights into the calculations and reasoning involved. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of finding the phase angle, and one participant reports successfully solving the problem using a combination of methods, including conservation of energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of initial conditions and the definitions of amplitude and phase angle in the context of harmonic motion. The original poster expresses confusion about the phase angle, which is a point of discussion among participants.

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Homework Statement



A 0.50 kg particle executes linear harmonic motion about the point x = 0.0. At t= 1.0, it has a displacement x = 0.50m and a speed of 5.0 m/s to the right. The frequency of the motion is 2Hz. Determine (a) the spring constant, (b) the amplitude of the motion, (c) the displacement as a function of time t...blah blah blah...

The rest of the questions wants you to form equations and find displacements at other times which is a piece of cake.



Homework Equations



Acos(wt+ phase)
-wAsin(wt+phase)


The Attempt at a Solution



Spring constant is easy - 78.87 N/m.

Ok, when it is asking for amplitude I am little confused. Maybe someone can help clear it up. It says it executes linear harmonic motion at x = 0.0. Does this mean that there isn't a phase angle since it is initially at rest at t = 0s and x = 0? If there isn't a phase angle that makes solving for amplitude so much simpler since I can just set it to 0 and calculate the amplitude using the conditions at t = 1.0s.

Anybody?
 
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At x = 0m, the velocity is at a maximum (if it was at rest, it wouldn't oscillate). The frequency is f = 2Hz, which would mean the period is T = 0.5s. At t = 1.0s, it made two full oscillations, which would mean that at t = 0.0s, x = 0.50m. You can calculate the phase angle from this.
 
How so? The way I learned to find phase angles is take the displacement equation x(t) and the velocity equation v(t). If you divide these 2, you are left with x(t) / v(t) = tan(wt + phase angle).
 
I overlooked the amplitude...sorry about that. Since you know the mass, position, velocity, and spring constant, you can use the conservation of energy to find the amplitude.
 
Hey there, I got the problem solved.

What I did actually was took v(t) / x(t) . If you write out the equations you will see that the amplitude cancels out and you are left with tangent of some number. I then used guess and check to find the the phase angle which took a while. It was a very painstaking procedure that took up a huge mess of paper.

I checked it using the conservation of energy and I got the same answer.

Thanks for the help.
 

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