Simple Harmonic Motion Archimedes

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The discussion revolves around a problem in simple harmonic motion, specifically analyzing the oscillations of a body floating in a liquid. The original poster attempts to derive the period of small amplitude oscillations using Archimedes' principle and the forces acting on the body.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss setting up differential equations based on forces acting on the floating body, including attempts to incorporate buoyant force and weight. Questions arise regarding the correct formulation of these equations and the role of displacement in the context of Archimedes' principle.

Discussion Status

Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and questioning the dimensional correctness of their equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between buoyant force and displaced liquid, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the mathematical description of buoyant force and its relation to the weight of the displaced liquid. There is also mention of a lack of recent physics practice, which may be affecting their confidence in solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


A body of uniform cross-sectional area A and mass density ρ floats in a liquid
of density ρ0 (where ρ < ρ0), and at equilibrium displaces a volume V.
Making use of Archimedes principle (that the buoyancy force acting on a
partially submerged body is equal to the mass of the displaced liquid),

show that the period of small amplitude oscillations about the equilibrium position is

T = 2(pi)\sqrt{V/(gA)}

Homework Equations



fnet = mg - p0*V*g

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, I wanted to set up a differential equation.

ma + p0*V*g - mg = 0

or

m * x'' + p0*V*g - mg = 0

however, I know this not to be the right equation because I'm missing an "x" term to make this solvable.

so then I went another way

ma = g(m-p0V)
a = g - p0*V/m

but a = -(z)*w^2 ; z = amplitude

and

p0*V/m = 1
---------------------

-(z)*w^2 = g - 1

(z)*w^2 = 1 - g

w^2 = (1-g)/z

w = \sqrt{(1-g)/z}

and then T = 2(pi) / w

but this isn't the right answer :(
 
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When the floating object is in equilibrium, the buoyant force equals the weight and Fnet = 0. Now push the object in by amount y. There will be an unbalanced force because of the extra buoyant force and the net force is this extra force. That's the left side of Newton's Second Law. Can you find an expression for it? As usual the right side is ma or m d2y / dt2.
 
Ah ok, I drew a picture - and I got that the buoyant force = A*y*g*m where A*y represents the volume of water being displaced when I push the mass a distance y from equilibrium and mg normalizes this to be the weight of that section of the block

So my diff eq:

m * y'' + A*g*m*y = 0

y'' + A*g*y = 0

Solving I get w = (A*g)^1/2

Period = 2(pi)/w

Period = 2(pi) \sqrt{1/(A*g)}

I'm still off by a little, I don't understand how the answer has volume and I'm left with 1
 
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Look at your diff. eq. It is dimensionally incorrect. The first term m*y'' is a force and that's OK, but the other term has mg (already a force) multiplying A*y which is a volume. What does Archimedes' principle say about the buoyant force?
 
kuruman said:
Look at your diff. eq. It is dimensionally incorrect. The first term m*y'' is a force and that's OK, but the other term has mg (already a force) multiplying A*y which is a volume. What does Archimedes' principle say about the buoyant force?

I'm still having difficulty with this problem. Archimedes' principle says that the buoyant force is equivalent to the weight of the liquid displaced.

But I'm having trouble mathematically describing what the weight of the liquid displaced is.

I understand it's the weight of the block which is burrowing into the water and thus making the displacement.

So I take it I assume the displaced liquid is directly proportional to the weight of the block.

m * x'' = F buoyant

I just can't figure out the correct equation. Any hints ??
 
I'm doing this same problem, and am currently stuck looking at the following:

mx'' + ρ0*(V+A*x) - mg

I'm really stuck on this one, and I'm not quite sure why. I think that it might just be because I haven't done physics since May...
 

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