Simple Measurement of Atomic Nuclei Radii

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The discussion focuses on the measurement of atomic nuclei radii using high-energy electron diffraction, specifically for carbon-12 at 420 MeV. The participant calculated the nuclear radius using the formula R = d/2, derived from Rayleigh's criterion and electron wavelength equations. Despite using the correct formulas, they encountered discrepancies in their results, obtaining values around 10^-14 m instead of the expected 10^-15 m. Key equations discussed include λ_e = h/sqrt(2m_eE) and d = 2r_n, highlighting the importance of ensuring the electron wavelength is less than the nuclear diameter for accurate measurements.

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Okay, we have a graph that shows how v.high energy electrons are diffracted by atomic nuclei and the first minimum is shown to be at approximately 51 degrees for carbon-12 with energy 420MeV. To calculate the nuclear radii I decided to use sin(theta)= 1.22lambda/d and rearranged this so d was the subject of the eq. To work out lamba I used lamba= h/sqrt(2mE). Then to finally calculate the radius of this nucelus, I used R=d/2. However, I've ended up with an answer x10^-14 (and almost x10^-13).

Can someone please tell me what's wrong with this? I've used m as the mass of an electron and put the energy into joules so I've got 420x10^6x1.6x10^-19 J
 
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I've checked my textbook and it says I'm using the right formulae so I really don't understand why I'm not getting my answer to x10^-15. Can anyone spot an error in what I've written above? Thanks.:smile:
 
How can you use Rayleigh's criterion here with such a large angle? I thought it could only be used for tiny resolving angles?
 
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Electron Wavelength:
\lambda_e = \frac{h}{ \sqrt{2m_eE}}

Scattering Criterion:
d \sin \Theta = m \lambda

d = \frac{mh}{ \sin \Theta \sqrt{2m_eE}}

d = 2r_n

r_n = \frac{mh}{ 2 \sin \Theta \sqrt{2m_eE}}

First minimum intensity:
m = \frac{1}{2}

r_n = \frac{h}{ 4 \sin \Theta \sqrt{2m_eE}}

rn = 1.925*10^-14 m

\lambda_e < d

\lambda_e = 5.984*10^-14 m
d = 7.7*10^-14 m

Claire84, these equations cannot resolve the radius of a nucleus unless the electron wavelength here (\lambda_e = 5.984*10^-14 m) is less than the diameter of a nucleus, here dn = 5.5*10^-15 m.

Electron nuclear resolution criterion:
\lambda_e \leq d_n

Orion1-Claire Criterion:
\sin \Theta \sqrt{E} = \frac{mh}{ 2 r_0 \sqrt[3]{A_n} \sqrt{2m_e}}
r0 = 1.2*10^-15 m
An - target mass (amu)

 
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