Simple Microscope Problem that I have been STUCK on

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a simple microscope, specifically determining the object distance required to form a virtual image with a specified magnification using a lens with a given focal length.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between object distance, image distance, and magnification using various equations. There is confusion regarding the correct form of the magnification equation and the application of the lens formula.

Discussion Status

Several participants are actively attempting to solve for the object distance, with some expressing uncertainty about their calculations and the equations being used. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between magnification and distances, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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Participants note discrepancies in their results compared to expected values, indicating potential misunderstandings of the equations or assumptions involved. There is also mention of lacking certain variables, which may be affecting their ability to solve the problem.

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Simple Microscope Problem that I have been STUCK on!

Homework Statement


How far from a lens of focal length 50 mm must the object be placed if it is to form a virtual image magnified in size by a factor of 3?


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I thought I could us the equation...
M = s'-f/f to get s' and then use...
1/f = 1/s + 1/s' to get the object distance

but I am not coming up with the right answer??
 
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Can anyone help me on this? I still can't get the answer? I am suppose to get 33 mm and I m getting 40 mm
 
I don't understand this
M = s'-f/f

Shouldn't it be just M = -s'/s?
 
I don't know its in my book...
but I don't have s' or s??
I know F = 50 mm so...
50 = (1/s + 1/s')^-1
but I am still not getting it?
 
You are trying to find s, right? You were given M so you can solve for s' using the magnification equation and then substitute that into the lens equation which will let you solve for s.
 
Ok sooo...
-s' = ms
s' = -ms
1/ms + 1/s = 1/f
1/s * (1/m + 1/s) = 1/f
1/s = [(1/f) / (1/m + 1)]^-1 = 66.67? what am I doing wrong??
 
1/ms + 1/s = 1/f

This term should be negative since s' = -ms
 
Thank you soooooooooooooooooo much for your help!
 

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