Simple Motion Along a Straight Line Problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to motion along a straight line, specifically focusing on calculating average velocity and average speed for a car traveling a total distance of 80 km, with varying speeds over two segments of the trip.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the time taken for each segment of the trip and seeks clarification on how to determine average velocity. Participants discuss the definitions of displacement and time intervals, questioning how these relate to average speed and average velocity.

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Participants have engaged in a back-and-forth exchange, with some providing guidance on the calculations needed to find average velocity. There is an exploration of the relationship between average speed and average velocity, particularly in the context of directional movement.

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Participants note that the average velocity and average speed can differ if the direction of motion changes, highlighting the importance of understanding displacement versus total distance traveled.

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Simple "Motion Along a Straight Line" Problem

Hi new here to PF. I have a simple physics problem but I was confused when the teacher was explaining it (he went a little too fast on this part) so I was hoping you physicians can help me out here.

Homework Statement


An automobile travels on a straight road for 40km at 30 km/hr. It then continues in the same director for another 40 km at 60 km/hr. (a) What is the average velocity of the car during this 80km trip?(Assume that it moves in the positive x direction.) (b) What is the average speed?

Given:
Trip was 80km.
First 40 km were traveled at 30km/hr
The second 40km were traveled at 60km/hr

Homework Equations


Average velocity = (Delta)x / (Delta) t where x is for position and t is for time.
Average speed = total distance / (Delta) t


The Attempt at a Solution


Okay so I was able to get that for the first 40km it took (4/3) hours by dividing (40km)/(30km/hr). For the next 40km I was able to get that it took (2/3 hours) by dividing (40km)/(60km/hr). In other words, 80km in 2 hrs. So I think that the average speed should be 80km/2hrs = 40km/hr. But I just don't know how to get the average velocity. Should I do the same thing again or something else. I know it is easy but I'm new to physics.
 
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MysticDude said:
Hi new here to PF. I have a simple physics problem but I was confused when the teacher was explaining it (he went a little too fast on this part) so I was hoping you physicians can help me out here.

Homework Statement


An automobile travels on a straight road for 40km at 30 km/hr. It then continues in the same director for another 40 km at 60 km/hr. (a) What is the average velocity of the car during this 80km trip?(Assume that it moves in the positive x direction.) (b) What is the average speed?

Given:
Trip was 80km.
First 40 km were traveled at 30km/hr
The second 40km were traveled at 60km/hr

Homework Equations


Average velocity = (Delta)x / (Delta) t where x is for position and t is for time.
Average speed = total distance / (Delta) t


The Attempt at a Solution


Okay so I was able to get that for the first 40km it took (4/3) hours by dividing (40km)/(30km/hr). For the next 40km I was able to get that it took (2/3 hours) by dividing (40km)/(60km/hr). In other words, 80km in 2 hrs. So I think that the average speed should be 80km/2hrs = 40km/hr. But I just don't know how to get the average velocity. Should I do the same thing again or something else. I know it is easy but I'm new to physics.

Hi MysticDude

Based on your equation : Average velocity = Δx / Δt

What is the value of Δx ? In other words, how far the automobile from its starting point?
What is the value of Δt ? How long did it take to reach its last position?
 


Well, Δx = x(final) - x(initial) so it should be 80km - 0 km = 80km.
Δt = t(final) - t(initial) so it should be 2hrs - 0hrs = 2hrs.
so Δx/Δt = 40 km/hr
So does this mean that the average velocity is also equal to the average speed?
 


MysticDude said:
Well, Δx = x(final) - x(initial) so it should be 80km - 0 km = 80km.
Δt = t(final) - t(initial) so it should be 2hrs - 0hrs = 2hrs.
so Δx/Δt = 40 km/hr
So does this mean that the average velocity is also equal to the average speed?

Yes :biggrin:

The average velocity and average speed will be different if the object moves in different direction than the previous one, like it moves 40 km to the east, then 10 km to the west.
The distance = 40 + 10 = 50 km
The displacement or position = 40 - 10 = 30 km
 


Thanks a bunch! I knew it had to be a simple problem since it was only the first week of school, but for some reason I got confused. Once again, thanks a lot for helping a new guy out. I got into AP Physics so I signed up for help and you sir just gave it to me :P.
 


You're welcome. I also got helped by many members here. Glad I can help others :smile:
 

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