Simple(?) parabolic dish design question

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This discussion focuses on designing a parabolic optical mirror, specifically addressing the relationship between the diameter (D), focal length (f), and the distance from the front edge of the dish to the focus (g). The user, Joe, outlines a method to derive the necessary parameters by establishing equations that relate these variables. The final equations include the parabolic equation y = a * x² and the quadratic formula to solve for parameter a, which is crucial for defining the paraboloid's shape. This approach provides a systematic way to calculate the depth (d) of the dish based on specified dimensions.

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Not feeling too good, slowing me down a bit :).
I want to use this to design a parabolic (optical) mirror;

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The problem is that in my application I need both D and f to be a parameter, but I need to specify f only as a perpendicular distance from D. In other words, I need to specify some f_2=f-d, and calculate d. I can't seem to come up with a way to do this without self-reference.

Thanks so much

Joe

ETA N/M it just took me an extra second. I'll post the solution shortly

ETA II Nope, sorry, still self reference problems. It's so annoying cause it seems so simple :/

ETA III Maple CAS says it's
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(where f=f_2)but I'll be durned if I know how it got there.
 
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Specify the distance from front edge of dish to focus as g.
Then; f = d + g; d = f - g;
You specify the paraboloid size by radius; r = diameter / 2.
Given r and g, solve for parameter a of the parabola equation.
y = a * x^2

The slope of surface is; y' = 2*a*x
When 45°, slope = 1, y = f
1 = 2 * a * x
x = 1 / ( 2 * a )
f = y = a / ( 4*a^2 )
f = 1 / ( 4 * a )
For the rim of the dish.
d = a * r^2
f - g = a * r^2
f = g + ( a * r^2 )
equate the two equations for f.
g + ( a * r^2 ) = 1 / ( 4 * a )
( r^2 * a^2 ) + (g * a) - 1/4 = 0
Then solve that quadratic for the parameter a.
 
I think this is a general solution.
Specify radius of dish; r = diam / 2
Specify distance from front face of dish to focus; g
Vertex is at the origin so surface eqn; y = a · x²
Temporary; t = √ ( r² + g² ) ; which is distance from focus to lip
Parameter; a = ( t - g ) / ( 2 · r² )
Position of focus on y axis; f = 1 / ( 4 · a )
Depth of dish; d = f - g
 
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