Simple Redshift Question/Orbital Velocity

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the redshift of a distant quasar, specifically analyzing the observed and emitted wavelengths of light to determine the radial speed of the quasar relative to Earth. The subject area includes concepts from astrophysics and the Doppler effect.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the redshift formula and questions whether the resulting velocity represents orbital velocity. Participants discuss the relevance of the formulas used and the nature of the velocity being calculated.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the appropriate equations for calculating the quasar's velocity, with some suggesting the use of the relativistic Doppler effect for high recession velocities. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the assumptions behind the calculations.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the applicability of certain formulas and the distinction between radial and orbital velocities. The discussion reflects on the assumptions made in interpreting redshift data.

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Homework Statement


When studying the optical spectrum of a very distant quasar (quasi stellar object), they found that a certain spectral line appears at a wavelength of 559 nm instead of the regular 446 nm. In terms of the speed of the light, what is the radial speed of the quasar with respect to Earth?


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I tried using the fact that the redshift z= (λ_observed - λ_emitted)/(λ_emitted) and then
1 + z = 1/(sqrt(1-(v^2/c^2)) and then solving for v.. But is this "v" the orbital velocity? And I did convert my answer into terms of the speed of light so that's not the part that's wrong. Any help? Thanks!
 
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There is no orbital velocity.

1 + z = 1/(sqrt(1-(v^2/c^2))
Where does that formula come from? That looks like the transversal doppler effect, which is not relevant here.
A calculated v would be the radial velocity of the quasar, if redshift would come from moving objects (it does not, but you have to assume this here as it seems).
 
what velocity equation is relevant here then?
 
For high recession velocities (like those of quasars) you're probably expected to employ the relativistic Doppler effect relationship.
 
Ahhh good idea... and yep it worked.. Thank you!
 

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