Simplification Problem before Finding Derivative

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The discussion focuses on finding the derivative of the function f(x) = (x - 3x√x)/√x. Initially, the user attempted to simplify the expression incorrectly, leading to confusion about the application of exponent rules. After clarification from other participants, the correct simplification was established as f(x) = x^(1/2) - 3x, resulting in the derivative f'(x) = (1/2)x^(-1/2) - 3. The final answer was confirmed as (1/2√x) - 3, demonstrating the importance of correctly applying exponent rules in calculus.

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Homework Statement



I have a bit of confusion surrounding one of my basic derivative problems:

Find the derivative of the following:

\begin{equation}
f(x) = \frac{x - 3x{\sqrt{x}}}{\sqrt{x}}
\end{equation}

Homework Equations



None, I believe.

The Attempt at a Solution



I think I can simplify this, so I separate them:
\begin{equation}
\frac{x}{x^{1/2}} - \frac{3x. x^{1/2}}{x^{1/2}}
\end{equation}
Using the indices laws, I add and subtract:
\begin{equation}
x^{-1/2} - 3x
\end{equation}
Now it's simplified as far as I can see, so I take the derivative:
\begin{equation}
\frac{-1}{2}x^{-3/2} - 3
\end{equation}
And my final answer is:
\begin{equation}
\frac{-1}{2\sqrt{x^3}} - 3
\end{equation}
I'm confused about simplifying the exponents the way I did. If I have to use the quotient law, I'm not too sure how to apply it correctly in this case.
 
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johnstobbart said:

Homework Statement



I have a bit of confusion surrounding one of my basic derivative problems:

Find the derivative of the following:

\begin{equation}
f(x) = \frac{x - 3x{\sqrt{x}}}{\sqrt{x}}
\end{equation}

Homework Equations



None, I believe.

The Attempt at a Solution



I think I can simplify this, so I separate them:
\begin{equation}
\frac{x}{x^{1/2}} - \frac{3x. x^{1/2}}{x^{1/2}}
\end{equation}
Using the indices laws, I add and subtract:
\begin{equation}
x^{-1/2} - 3x
\end{equation}
Now it's simplified as far as I can see, so I take the derivative:
\begin{equation}
\frac{-1}{2}x^{-3/2} - 3
\end{equation}
And my final answer is:
\begin{equation}
\frac{-1}{2\sqrt{x^3}} - 3
\end{equation}
I'm confused about simplifying the exponents the way I did. If I have to use the quotient law, I'm not too sure how to apply it correctly in this case.

Why do you claim that \frac{x}{\sqrt{x}} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}}? The claim is false. If, as you claim, you are just adding/subtracting exponents, then you seem to be saying that 1 - 1/2 = -1/2.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
Why do you claim that \frac{x}{\sqrt{x}} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}}? The claim is false. If, as you claim, you are just adding/subtracting exponents, then you seem to be saying that 1 - 1/2 = -1/2.

RGV

Sorry. I made an error. Let me try fix it.
When I simplify f(x) (hopefully correctly this time), I get:
\begin{equation}
x^{1/2} - 3x
\end{equation}
Then when taking the derivative, I get:
\begin{equation}
\frac{x^{-1/2}}{2} - 3
\end{equation}
My final answer is:
\begin{equation}
\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}} - 3
\end{equation}
 
Last edited:
Writing your problem in terms of exponents instead of radicals make it easier:
\frac{d}{dx}\frac{x-3x^{3/2}}{x^{1/2}}
Split that up to get
\frac{d}{dx}x^{1/2}-3\frac{d}{dx}x
Then your answer is correct. To check your work, it is always good to integrate what you got:
\int \frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}-3\,dx=\frac{1}{2}\int x^{-1/2}\,dx - 3x=\sqrt{x}-3x
which is what we started with.
 
I haven't started on integration yet, but I do know I'll be doing it soon. Thanks a lot for all your patience and time Millenial and Ray Vickson.
 

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