Simplifying Lorentz Force Formula

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the Lorentz force formula, F = q(E + v x B), specifically analyzing the scenario where the electric field is absent and the velocity vector is at a 45° angle to the magnetic field. The correct expression for the Lorentz force in this case is derived as qvB/√2, due to the sine of the angle being sin(45°) = 1/√2. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the underlying principles rather than just selecting from multiple-choice answers.

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  • Understanding of vector mathematics, particularly cross products
  • Familiarity with the Lorentz force equation
  • Basic knowledge of trigonometry, specifically sine functions
  • Concept of electric charge and its interaction with magnetic fields
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Hey everyone, I'm trying to make sure I did this question right. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Homework Statement



The general force that bends the electron in the e/m experiment is known as the Lorentz force, F = q(E + v x B), where force F, electric field E, velocity v, and magnetic field B are vectors, and x stands for the vector product. Given that there is no electric field, and the velocity vector is at an 45° angle with respect to the magnetic field, the formula for the Lorentz force experienced by a particle carrying electric charge q is which of the following:

qvB/2
qvB
qvB/sqrt(2)
qv/B

Homework Equations



F = q(E + v x B)

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought, as it was at a 45 degree angle, the qvB/sqrt(2) would be accurate as a right triangle with a 45 degree angle creates a hypotenuse of sqrt(2)
 
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Hey RobertL! :smile:
RobertL said:
F = q(E + v x B)

… the velocity vector is at an 45° angle with respect to the magnetic field

I thought, as it was at a 45 degree angle, the qvB/sqrt(2) would be accurate as a right triangle with a 45 degree angle creates a hypotenuse of sqrt(2)

Forget about right triangles.

The cross product means sin of the angle, and so it's sin 45° which is 1/√2.
 
Robert,
Your reasoning is correct as far as selecting the correct answer from an offered set but to get the most understanding of the material from this problem as possible, you should work on finding the answer for arbitrary numbers. If it were 33° instead can you write down the answer? Hence tiny-tim's comments.
 

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