Simplifying the Chain Rule for Partial Derivatives in PDEs

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The discussion focuses on simplifying the chain rule for partial derivatives in the context of partial differential equations (PDEs). The key equation derived is the relationship between the second derivatives of z with respect to r and the Cartesian coordinates x and y, specifically: d^2 z/dr^2 + (1/r) dz/dr + (1/r^2) d^2 z/dv^2 = d^2 z/dx^2 + d^2 z/dy^2. The participants clarify the application of the chain rule, demonstrating how to compute dz/dr and d^2 z/dr^2 using trigonometric identities. The discussion concludes with a participant expressing understanding and intent to explore further examples.

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If z = f(x,y) and x = r \cos{v}, y = r\sin{v} the object is to show that d = \partial since it's easier to do on computer

Show that:
\frac{d^2 z}{dr^2} + \frac{1}{r} \frac{dz}{dr} + \frac{1}{r^2} \frac{d^2 z}{dv^2} = \frac{d^2 z}{dx^2} + \frac{d^2 z}{dy^2}

It's from Adams calculus, will show where I get lost.

We have from the chain rule
\frac{dz}{dr} = \frac{dz}{dx} \frac{dx}{dr} + \frac{dz}{dy} \frac{dy}{dr}

But \frac{dx}{dr} = \cos{v} and \frac{dy}{dr} = \sin{v}, so gives:

\frac{dz}{dr} = \frac{dz}{dx} \cos{v} + \frac{dz}{dy} \sin{v}

Now we need \frac{d^2 z}{dr^2}, where I end up in trouble. We have

\frac{d^2 z}{dr^2} = \frac{d}{dr} \cos{v} \frac{dz}{dx} + \frac{d}{dr} \sin{v} \frac{dz}{dy} which can be written as

\frac{d^2 z}{dr^2} = \cos{v} \frac{d}{dr} \frac{dz}{dx} + \sin{v} \frac{d}{dr} \frac{dz}{dy}

Now my books says that

\frac{d}{dr} \frac{dz}{dx} = \cos{v} \frac{d^2 z}{dx^2} + \sin{v} \frac{d^2 z}{dy dx} if I understand correct. But I don't see how you get to this ...
 
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Since z is a function of (x,y), the derivative of z in respect to x (or y), is another function of (x,y). Therefore the operator d/dr acts on the derivative of z the same way it acts on z.

Look at this:
\frac{d}{dr}(z)=\frac{dx}{dr}\frac{d}{dx}(z)+\frac{dy}{dr}\frac{d}{dy}(z)=

Substitude z by dz/dx and you get the final result which you have written.
 
elibj123 said:
Substitude z by dz/dx and you get the final result which you have written.

Thank you very much, the equation for d^2 z/dv^2 got even messier. But I think I understand, I solved it and I'm going to try other examples on this.
 

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