Sketching Graphs using limit information

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The discussion revolves around sketching graphs of functions based on specified limit conditions. The subject area includes limits and continuity within calculus, focusing on how these concepts apply to function behavior at specific points.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore various functions that could satisfy the limit conditions, with some suggesting specific forms like the greatest integer function and rational functions. Questions arise about the implications of limits existing or not existing, and how these relate to function values at specific points.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding the relationship between limits and function values, particularly in cases where limits do not equal the function value at that point. Others provide insights into the nature of limits and suggest that any function fitting the criteria can be sketched, emphasizing the importance of understanding the underlying concepts rather than finding a definitive answer.

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Participants mention constraints such as the requirement for the domain to be all real numbers and the need for the function to be bounded within certain limits. There is also acknowledgment of varying levels of familiarity with precalculus concepts among participants.

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Homework Statement



For each of the four cases below, sketch a graph of a function that satisfies the stated conditions. In each case, the domain of the function should be all real numbers. (professor also mentioned he wants us to write it out in piecemeal function format)

a) lim(x→2) of f(x) = 3 and f(2) = 4
b) lim(x→0) of f(x) = DNE, and |f(x)| < 2 for all x
c) lim(x→1) of f(x) exists and its value is f(1) + 2
d) lim(x→-1[from the right]) of f(x) and lim(x→-1[from the left]) = DNE, |f(x)| < 3 for all x, and f(-1) = -2

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The Attempt at a Solution



I am completely at a loss, but:

a) Greatest integer function?
b) -1/x^2-3
c) no idea
d) no idea
 
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You should show your working.
It reads that any function that satisfies the description will do.

You can test each of your guesses by applying the limit to see if it pans out.
It's basically testing if you know what it means to take the limit.
 
For some of the items you may find helpful that sin(f(x)) is a bounded function.
 
##\sin f(x)## :)

I think it is simpler than that though - awaiting confirmation from OP but:
- the function does not have to be named - no equation is asked for - just a sketch.
A random squiggle (provided each x only has one y) that fits the description will do.
The function does not even have to be continuous.

So, if a condition is that |f(x)|<a, then draw a dotted line at y=a and y=-a.
Another condition may be that f(p)=q ... then one places a dot at (x,y)=(p,q).
A line through the dot that does not touch the dotted lines will satisfy the conditions - leaves the limits.
I'd draw a vertical dotted line through the limit to help decide what happens there.

So.
a. what does it mean when ##\lim_{x\rightarrow a}f(x)\neq f(a)## ?
b. what does it mean that the limit does not exist?

c & d are cunning variations on a & b.

Mind you - being able to produce an equation would slam-dunk the question.
 
Thanks all for replying.

Simon, you are right that it can be any function.

I think I am having a very fundamental misunderstanding (still the first week of class, and I haven't taken precalc in 12 years.

I don't understand how the limit as x approaches 2 can be 3, but f(2) = 4
 
Have a look at these three functions...



... in each case, what is the limit a x --> a from the left and from the right?
Compare, in each case, with the value of f(a).

http://scides.ca/courses/calculus_12/course/unit2/U02L04.htm
 
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a) totally makes sense now, it is basically graph 3.

b) since the limit does not exist as x -> 0, 1/x^2 + 2 would satisfy - because it is absolute value of f(x), 1/x^3 + 2 would also work.

Am I on the right track here?

Thanks again for the guidance.
 
since the limit does not exist as x -> 0, 1/x^2 + 2 would satisfy
$$\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{1}{x^2} = \infty$$

Take another look at graph 2.
The limit exists, even though there is no value for f(a) because the left hand and right hand limits are the same.

On graph 3, what would happen to the limits if the red curve coming in from the left ended up at the topmost point instead?

Did you try following the link?

Aside:
1/x^2 + 2 [...] is absolute value of f(x)
$$\frac{1}{x^2}\neq |x|$$.. and, anyway, $$\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}|x| = 0$$
 
Ok, I think this has been helpful. I see two of my errors now.

Would it be correct to say that the lim x->0 of 1/x^3 = DNE?

And I'm still unsure how the absolute value component is affecting the answer for b and d.
 
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Anything where the left hand limit disagrees with the right-hand limit.
A step function will do. You can google "the limit does not exist" and look at pictures for examples.
There's also more on limits in the website I linked - please read the links people give you, we do that to save typing.

For the other thing:

|f(x)| < a just means that -a < f(x) < a.

eg. |sin(x)| < a is true as long as a > 1 :)
trivially, if f(x) is the horizontal line through the origin, then we can confidently use it as an example of |f(x)| < 2 .

In your sketch you draw a dotted, horizontal, line at y=a and y=-a and make sure that your wiggly line representing the sketched function stays between them.
 

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