Ski Jump (Conservation of Energy)

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The problem involves a skier sliding down a ski jump, utilizing principles of conservation of energy to determine height and kinetic energy at the ground. The scenario includes parameters such as mass, height, and distance traveled after takeoff.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding the skier's velocity at the bottom of the ramp and relate it to projectile motion. Questions arise regarding the necessity of knowing the speed at takeoff and the time taken to fall a certain height.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem using projectile motion concepts and energy equations. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between height, velocity, and distance, with some attempts to derive equations based on the given parameters.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of certain values, such as the speed at which the skier leaves the ramp, and discuss the implications of this missing information on their calculations.

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Homework Statement


A skier (m=55.00 kg) starts sliding down from the top of a ski jump with negligible friction and takes off horizontally. (A)If h = 6.80 m and D = 10.20 m, find H.(B)Find her total kinetic energy as she reaches the ground.


Homework Equations


KEi+PEi=KEf+PEf (law of conservation of energy)
KE=1/2mv^2
PE=mgh

The Attempt at a Solution


I somehow have to find the total Height and the final Velocity. I can't seem to come up with an equation that doesn't have one of those in it...Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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You can find the velocity at the bottom of the ramp with the information given. You can treat it like a projectile problem, where the skier leaves the ramp at 90 degrees, with an initial height h, and lands a distance D from the ramp. Once you find this velocity, you can use the energy equations that you posted above to find H.
 
omg...I don't see how I didn't see it before...Thank you very much!
 
Wait...Don't you need to know how fast it's going off the ramp?
 
Albeaver89 said:
Wait...Don't you need to know how fast it's going off the ramp?

First, you find the time it takes for the skier to fall height h (this is independent of the speed of the skier, since the ramp is horizontal). Then, you can find how fast the skier must have been going to travel a distance D in this time.
 
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So I got V=D/sqrt(2*h/g)
Then plug that into: m*g*H=1/2*m*(D/sqrt(2*h/g))^2 Since H=x+h we get
m*g*(x+h)=1/2*m*(D/sqrt(2*h/g))^2 then solve for x giving us:
x=((.25*d^2)/h)-h Does that seem correct?

I got -2.975?

Never mind I forgot to add in the mgh to the end of the equation silly me thanks again for all your help:)
 

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