Slow Motion Appearance of Flags: Fluid Dynamics or Perceptual Illusion?

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The discussion centers on the phenomenon of flags appearing to move in slow motion when fluttering in the wind, despite the presence of strong and variable winds. Participants explore the interplay of psychological perception and physical principles, particularly focusing on fluid dynamics and fabric dynamics. The concept of a "Kármán vortex street" is introduced as a key factor in understanding this motion, where alternating vortices influence the flag's behavior. This analysis aims to bridge everyday observations with fundamental physics concepts.

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Why do flags appear to move in slow motion when they flutter in the wind, even though the wind can be strong and variable? Is this perception purely psychological, or are there physical principles (such as fabric dynamics or fluid mechanics) that contribute to this seemingly slow, graceful motion?
 
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Huge airplanes also appear to move in slow motion.
 
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Chestermiller said:
What have you done to analyze this problem and to research it?
I’m trying to build up my understanding of physics concepts by asking questions that emerge from everyday observations. I tried looking up 'flag motion fluid dynamics', but most of what I found was overly technical. That’s why I thought this forum might help me connect intuition with actual physics.
 
metehansure said:
Why do flags appear to move in slow motion when they flutter in the wind, even though the wind can be strong and variable?
As the wind passes a flag pole, it deviates alternately to the left and right, forming a "Karman street". The flag lies between the air that moves down one side of the pole, and the air on the other. It therefore shows the position of the boundary between the alternating vortices, as they move downstream with the wind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kármán_vortex_street
 
Baluncore said:
As the wind passes a flag pole, it deviates alternately to the left and right, forming a "Karman street". The flag lies between the air that moves down one side of the pole, and the air on the other. It therefore shows the position of the boundary between the alternating vortices, as they move downstream with the wind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kármán_vortex_street
Thank you so much for your clear and detailed explanation.
 
metehansure said:
but most of what I found was overly technical.
Such is life / Physics. :smile:
 

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