Slow Motion Appearance of Flags: Fluid Dynamics or Perceptual Illusion?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the phenomenon of flags appearing to move in slow motion when fluttering in the wind. Participants explore whether this perception is a psychological effect or if it can be explained by physical principles such as fluid dynamics and fabric behavior.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the slow-motion appearance of flags is purely psychological or if it involves physical principles like fluid dynamics.
  • One participant notes that large airplanes also appear to move slowly, suggesting a possible parallel in perception.
  • Another participant describes the formation of a "Karman street" as the wind interacts with a flag pole, indicating that the flag's motion may be related to alternating vortices created by the wind.
  • There is acknowledgment that existing literature on the topic can be overly technical, which may hinder understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on the nature of the slow-motion appearance of flags and the factors contributing to it.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding of the physics concepts involved, and there is a noted dependence on definitions and interpretations of fluid dynamics.

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Why do flags appear to move in slow motion when they flutter in the wind, even though the wind can be strong and variable? Is this perception purely psychological, or are there physical principles (such as fabric dynamics or fluid mechanics) that contribute to this seemingly slow, graceful motion?
 
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Huge airplanes also appear to move in slow motion.
 
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Chestermiller said:
What have you done to analyze this problem and to research it?
I’m trying to build up my understanding of physics concepts by asking questions that emerge from everyday observations. I tried looking up 'flag motion fluid dynamics', but most of what I found was overly technical. That’s why I thought this forum might help me connect intuition with actual physics.
 
metehansure said:
Why do flags appear to move in slow motion when they flutter in the wind, even though the wind can be strong and variable?
As the wind passes a flag pole, it deviates alternately to the left and right, forming a "Karman street". The flag lies between the air that moves down one side of the pole, and the air on the other. It therefore shows the position of the boundary between the alternating vortices, as they move downstream with the wind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kármán_vortex_street
 
Baluncore said:
As the wind passes a flag pole, it deviates alternately to the left and right, forming a "Karman street". The flag lies between the air that moves down one side of the pole, and the air on the other. It therefore shows the position of the boundary between the alternating vortices, as they move downstream with the wind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kármán_vortex_street
Thank you so much for your clear and detailed explanation.
 
metehansure said:
but most of what I found was overly technical.
Such is life / Physics. :smile:
 

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